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Subject: Minutes for 5/18/04

The minutes for the wss telecom of 5/18/04 are below.  Please send any
corrections or updates to the list.


Minutes 5/18/04

Roll Call – Quorum achieved 44/59
Minutes – Accepted - No objections

Errata Status and Review
Action Item – Tony to repost errata document, present one can’t be opened.

SAML and XrML Interops
SAML interop started yesterday. The endpoints were on the private e-mail
list for the interop.  Most companies have sent certificates.  Expect that
the remaining endpoints should be in today.  There has been some figuring
out of minor stuff.  Resultant changes should be in interop document version
6, revised.  The interop started yesterday and is expected to end 5/24.

XrML interop ended on 17th
Motion to move the current draft to a committee draft.   There have been no
changes to the draft as a result of the interop.  Need a 2/3 yes votes for
The vote was – 23 yes 22 abstain 0 no. The motion did not pass.
Action Item – Kelvin will put out a vote on a Kavi ballot.  The rules say
the votes should be out for at least 7 calendar days.  The dates for the
vote will be in the ballot.
Motion to put out a Kavi ballot vote to move the current XrML draft to a
committee draft, proposed by Tony Nadalin, seconded by Mike McIntosh.
Passed with no objections.

Status of other profiles
SAML - Focus is on the interop document.  May be a URI was added or changed
in the document.
Action Item – Ron will double check for any changes as a result of the
interop.  He will make the editorial changes, e.g. URI.

XrML - No change as a result of the interop

Kerberos -  Nothing to say, looking for the TC to review the present
profile.  There have been no comments on the list.
Action Item – Tony will work with VJ to generate a scenario document.  Then
they will explore the interop.  Waiting for comments on the profile itself.

274 closed – WSS SAML profile is constrained to 1.1, SAML 2.0 is not being
addressed and is out of scope.  A number of name qualifiers have been
deprecated.  These can be used but beware that depreciated items can be
removed in the next version.

273	Pending - SAML profile does not use conditions.  Add a comment that
condition processing will be the same as in the SAML core.
Action Item – Ron will add a note to this effect.

277 Open  Spec should say what a TGT is used for.
Action Item – Phil will add text to propose a resolution to this question.

280 Open. Rob - as long as scenario doesn’t run over SSL, which it doesn’t
in this interop, so there is no issue.
Action Item – Rob will get Andrew to repost the issue to state this.

281 Open – Tony will create errata for each separate document.

282 Open - Someone needs to make a proposal.  Will someone please volunteer?

283 Action Item – Hal and Phillip will research and report back on this

284 closed.

285 - Want confirmations that the TC will address this issue.  WS-I just
issued a document on the this issue, which will be sent to the list.
Proposal will be sent out.

Hal moved and seconded by Fredrick that the TC will take on the work
described by issue 285.  The motion included a friendly amendment that 268
will be reopened by 285, and that 129 is possibly related.    Motion passed
unanimously with no objections

Action Item – Jerry Schwarz, Fredrick Hirsch and Mike McIntosh to issue a
proposal on these issues.

Other business

Frederic moved for Adjournment.

Attendance of Voting Members

  Gene Thurston AmberPoint
  Frank Siebenlist Argonne National Lab
  Merlin Hughes Betrusted
  Peter Dapkus BEA
  Hal Lockhart BEA
  Symon Chang CommerceOne
  Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard
  Guillermo Lao ContentGuard
  TJ Pannu ContentGuard
  Sam Wei Documentum
  John Hughes Entegrity
  Tim Moses Entrust
  Toshihiro Nishimura Fujitsu
  Kefeng Chen GeoTrust
  Irving Reid HP
  Yutaka Kudo Hitachi
  Paula Austel IBM
  Derek Fu IBM
  Kelvin Lawrence IBM
  Mike McIntosh IBM
  Anthony Nadalin IBM
  Nataraj Nagaratnam IBM
  Ron Williams IBM
  Don Flinn Individual
  Bob Morgan Individual
  Kate Cherry Lockheed Martin
  Paul Cotton Microsoft
  Vijay Gajjala Microsoft
  Alan Geller Microsoft
  Ellen McDermott Microsoft
  Richard Levinson Netegrity
  Frederick Hirsch Nokia
  Abbie Barbir Nortel
  Lloyd Burch Novell
  Ed Reed Novell
  Steve Anderson OpenNetwork
  Jerry Schwarz Oracle
  Ramana Turlapati Oracle
  Eric Gravengaard Reactivity
  Ben Hammond RSA Security
  Rob Philpott RSA Security
  Martijn de Boer SAP
  Blake Dournaee Sarvega
  Coumara Radja Sarvega
  Pete Wenzel SeeBeyond
  Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems
  Jan Alexander Systinet
  John Weiland US Navy
  Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign
  Maneesh Sahu Westbridge Technology

Attendance of Prospective Members or Observers

  Dana Kaufman Forum Systems
  Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi
  Konstantin Shmakov BEA
  Jason Rouault HP

Membership Status Changes

  Don Adams TIBCO - Requested membership 5/4/2004
  Konstantin Shmakov BEA - Requested membership 5/5/2004
  Senthil Sengodan Nokia - Requested membership 5/6/2004
  Dana Kaufman Forum Systems - Granted voting status after 5/18/2004 call
  Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi - Granted voting status after 5/18/2004 call
  Yassir Elley Sun Microsystems - Lost voting status after 5/18/2004 call

Donald Flinn
Flint Security LLC
Phone: 781/856-7230
e-mail: flinn@alum.mit.edu

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