Fw: Minutes from June 28th Meeting

[Kelvin Lawrence <klawrenc@us.ibm.com>]

John weiland sent me the minutes for
the last call and I am posting them below - it seems his postings are not
working ...

Cheers
Kelvin


Good Afternoon Kelvin,
I sent this to the list and never saw it posted.
 
Minutes for WSS TC June  28, 2004.
 
1.  Meeting was
called to order 10:15 AM; Kelvin Lawrence and Chris Kaler were in the Chair.
 
John R. Weiland, US Navy, acted as recording secretary for this meeting.
 
Steve Anderson did Roll
Call:
Attendance of voting members
  Gene Thurston AmberPoint
  Frank Siebenlist Argonne National Lab
  Merlin Hughes Betrusted
  Hal Lockhart BEA
  Konstantin Shmakov BEA
  Corinna Witt BEA
  Steven Lewis Booz Allen Hamilton
  Symon Chang CommerceOne
  Davanum Srinivas CA
  Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard
  Guillermo Lao ContentGuard
  Sam Wei Documentum
  John Hughes Entegrity
  Tim Moses Entrust
  Dana Kaufman Forum Systems
  Toshihiro Nishimura Fujitsu
  Kefeng Chen GeoTrust
  Irving Reid HP
  Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi
  Paula Austel IBM
  Derek Fu IBM
  Maryann Hondo IBM
  Kelvin Lawrence IBM
  Mike McIntosh IBM
  Anthony Nadalin IBM
  Nataraj Nagaratnam IBM
  Ron Williams IBM
  Don Flinn Individual
  Bob Morgan Individual
  Vijay Gajjala Microsoft
  Alan Geller Microsoft
  Chris Kaler Microsoft
  Ellen McDermott Microsoft
  Richard Levinson Netegrity
  Prateek Mishra Netegrity
  Frederick Hirsch Nokia
  Senthil Sengodan Nokia
  Abbie Barbir Nortel
  Charles Knouse Oblix
  Steve Anderson OpenNetwork
  Ramana Turlapati Oracle
  Ben Hammond RSA Security
  Andrew Nash RSA Security
  Blake Dournaee Sarvega
  Coumara Radja Sarvega
  Jeff Hodges Sun Microsystems
  Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems
  Jan Alexander Systinet
  John Weiland US Navy
  Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign
  Maneesh Sahu Westbridge Technology
  
  
Attendance of Prospective Members and Observers  
 
  Jamie Clark OASIS
 

Membership Status Changes
 
  Ed Reed Novell
- Withdrew 6/19/2004
  TJ Pannu (formerly ContentGuard) - Changed employment after 6/15/2004
call
 
46 out of 59 voting
members in attendance quorum met.
 
2. Last meeting's minutes
accepted unanimously.
 
3.  Errata Status
Review - Editors have draft of three errata documents posted.  Tony
Nadalin - issues list, and mailing lists were reviewed since last approved
document (in March)
to catch issues and typos that did not make it in as issues.  Documents
split into Normative changes, Non-Normative changes and Clarifications
(like explaination of URI fragment equating to full URI).
 
Proposed plan for errata
is spending next two weeks discussing and fixing errata on mailing list,
and voting acceptance at next conference call for posting on the web site.
 Potential schema mismatches 
was mentioned.  Should a new schema be issued, or would that be treated
as other errata.  Leaving the schema as is would force everyone to
correct their own schemas, changing the schema would create
a document different from the one voted on by the TC.  URI to updated
schema could add an a at the end, this suggestion was well received.  New
schema file will be worked by the editiors.
 
4.  Status of other
profiles - 
 
Ron Monzillo for SAML:
 An issue presented by Tony Nadallin about wsu:Id created much debate.
 There was also a previous issue about the description of the sender-
voucher example that requires more commentary - draft created with commentary
in version 12 sent to list.
 
XrML/REL Token - waiting
for public call
 
Kerberose - no changes
an issue will be posted today, call for scenarious for interop made.
 
5.   Issue list
review - version 43
 
3 closed
35 closed
57 
Pending items skipped to be resolved in errata
254 closed added to document prior to publication
errata will be linked to items and emails that created them.   
281 closed addressed in errata
 
282 Tony was to propose
text.  
 
Hal brought issue to
TC:  The Document style structure currently puts all of the syntax
in the schemas are in the Core document and the profiles add processing
information and narrow choices. 
Following that model changes, like the two new schema elements to be added
to core and the rest to the username token profile which involves updating
both documents.  Could we break with tradition   and put all
information relating to key deriviation in the username profile only?  This
idea was approved by the TC.
 
285 2nd draft is out,
but needs more discussion.  Written as a separate profile with interoperability
scenarious - Call to TC 
 
290 Inconsistency in
the KeyIdentifier encoding type default between core and SAML specifications.
Core defines default of Base64Binary while SAML spec defines default to
be xsi:string. 
Outcome of debate was a friendly amendment stating:  Core also defines
the unencoded string so the profiles will not have to redefine that themselves.
 Any profile that does not have Base 64
will have to change, only one exists presently (SAML).  Issue pending
Ron Monzillo with do write up and send to list.
 
295 Ramana Turlapati:
Comments on SAML Token profile - sender vouches scenario is too complex.
Friendly amendment suggested Closed
 
295b Ramana Turlapati:
Profile does not cover SAML "Bearer" tokens. Is this scoped for
future?
Ron Monzillo send an answer to the list.  Debate will wait for use
case.  Closed 
 
297 Attachment Profile
Question/Comment
Open
 
296 Anthony Nadlin:
Comments on SAML Token profile and ID usage.
 
The issue is:  STR
with direct reference to a token element within same SOAP document.  An
xml schema should not be required to dereference.  Should have the
SAML token element wrap 
the assertion or have a key identifier.  How do you make a direct
reference to a SAML token in the message? 
 
Plan is to add to Clarification
to be rolled into future version.
 
SAML token profile mandates
use of key identifier method of referencing local SAML tokens excluding
use of the 
direct reference method to local tokens other than wsu:Id.  14 yes
12 no 8 abstentions. motion carried.
 
Oasis is trying to work
on public awareness.  Several is listed in email. Chairs are asked
to choose to do public
interops at some venues.  Do we wish to take advantage of this?  Frederick
mentions RSA confernce Feb 23 thru 27.
 
Discussion to the list.
 
Plan on comittee draft
for SAML if there are no obvious concerns begin a KAVI vote immediately.
 
Meeting adjourned. 
 
Very Respectfully,

John R. Weiland