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Subject: Fw: Corrected title/ date - Minutes from June 29th Meeting

Of course our last meeting was on the 29th not the 28th - fixed below..


Minutes for WSS TC , Tuesday June  29th, 2004.


1.  Meeting was called to order 10:15 AM EDT; Kelvin Lawrence and Chris Kaler were in the Chair.  
John R. Weiland, US Navy, acted as recording secretary for this meeting.


Steve Anderson did Roll Call:
Attendance of voting members
Gene Thurston AmberPoint
Frank Siebenlist Argonne National Lab
Merlin Hughes Betrusted
Hal Lockhart BEA
Konstantin Shmakov BEA
Corinna Witt BEA
Steven Lewis Booz Allen Hamilton
Symon Chang CommerceOne
Davanum Srinivas CA
Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard
Guillermo Lao ContentGuard
Sam Wei Documentum
John Hughes Entegrity
Tim Moses Entrust
Dana Kaufman Forum Systems
Toshihiro Nishimura Fujitsu
Kefeng Chen GeoTrust
Irving Reid HP
Kojiro Nakayama Hitachi
Paula Austel IBM
Derek Fu IBM
Maryann Hondo IBM
Kelvin Lawrence IBM
Mike McIntosh IBM
Anthony Nadalin IBM
Nataraj Nagaratnam IBM
Ron Williams IBM
Don Flinn Individual
Bob Morgan Individual
Vijay Gajjala Microsoft
Alan Geller Microsoft
Chris Kaler Microsoft
Ellen McDermott Microsoft
Richard Levinson Netegrity
Prateek Mishra Netegrity
Frederick Hirsch Nokia
Senthil Sengodan Nokia
Abbie Barbir Nortel
Charles Knouse Oblix
Steve Anderson OpenNetwork
Ramana Turlapati Oracle
Ben Hammond RSA Security
Andrew Nash RSA Security
Blake Dournaee Sarvega
Coumara Radja Sarvega
Jeff Hodges Sun Microsystems
Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems
Jan Alexander Systinet
John Weiland US Navy
Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign
Maneesh Sahu Westbridge Technology

Attendance of Prospective Members and Observers  


 Jamie Clark OASIS


Membership Status Changes

 Ed Reed Novell - Withdrew 6/19/2004
TJ Pannu (formerly ContentGuard) - Changed employment after 6/15/2004 call

46 out of 59 voting members in attendance quorum met.

2. Last meeting's minutes accepted unanimously.

3.  Errata Status Review - Editors have draft of three errata documents posted.  Tony Nadalin - issues list, and mailing lists were reviewed since last approved document (in March)
to catch issues and typos that did not make it in as issues.  Documents split into Normative changes, Non-Normative changes and Clarifications (like explaination of URI fragment equating to full URI).

Proposed plan for errata is spending next two weeks discussing and fixing errata on mailing list, and voting acceptance at next conference call for posting on the web site.  Potential schema mismatches
was mentioned.  Should a new schema be issued, or would that be treated as other errata.  Leaving the schema as is would force everyone to correct their own schemas, changing the schema would create
a document different from the one voted on by the TC.  URI to updated schema could add an a at the end, this suggestion was well received.  New schema file will be worked by the editiors.

4.  Status of other profiles -

Ron Monzillo for SAML:  An issue presented by Tony Nadallin about wsu:Id created much debate.  There was also a previous issue about the description of the sender-
voucher example that requires more commentary - draft created with commentary in version 12 sent to list.

XrML/REL Token - waiting for public call

Kerberose - no changes an issue will be posted today, call for scenarious for interop made.

5.   Issue list review - version 43

3 closed
35 closed
Pending items skipped to be resolved in errata
254 closed added to document prior to publication
errata will be linked to items and emails that created them.  
281 closed addressed in errata

282 Tony was to propose text.  

Hal brought issue to TC:  The Document style structure currently puts all of the syntax in the schemas are in the Core document and the profiles add processing information and narrow choices.
Following that model changes, like the two new schema elements to be added to core and the rest to the username token profile which involves updating both documents.  Could we break with tradition   and put all information relating to key deriviation in the username profile only?  This idea was approved by the TC.

285 2nd draft is out, but needs more discussion.  Written as a separate profile with interoperability scenarious - Call to TC

290 Inconsistency in the KeyIdentifier encoding type default between core and SAML specifications. Core defines default of Base64Binary while SAML spec defines default to be xsi:string.
Outcome of debate was a friendly amendment stating:  Core also defines the unencoded string so the profiles will not have to redefine that themselves.  Any profile that does not have Base 64
will have to change, only one exists presently (SAML).  Issue pending Ron Monzillo with do write up and send to list.

295 Ramana Turlapati: Comments on SAML Token profile - sender vouches scenario is too complex.
Friendly amendment suggested Closed

295b Ramana Turlapati: Profile does not cover SAML "Bearer" tokens. Is this scoped for future?
Ron Monzillo send an answer to the list.  Debate will wait for use case.  Closed

297 Attachment Profile Question/Comment

296 Anthony Nadlin: Comments on SAML Token profile and ID usage.

The issue is:  STR with direct reference to a token element within same SOAP document.  An xml schema should not be required to dereference.  Should have the SAML token element wrap
the assertion or have a key identifier.  How do you make a direct reference to a SAML token in the message?

Plan is to add to Clarification to be rolled into future version.

SAML token profile mandates use of key identifier method of referencing local SAML tokens excluding use of the
direct reference method to local tokens other than wsu:Id.  14 yes 12 no 8 abstentions. motion carried.

Oasis is trying to work on public awareness.  Several is listed in email. Chairs are asked to choose to do public
interops at some venues.  Do we wish to take advantage of this?  Frederick mentions RSA confernce Feb 23 thru 27.

Discussion to the list.

Plan on comittee draft for SAML if there are no obvious concerns begin a KAVI vote immediately.

Meeting adjourned.

Very Respectfully,

John R. Weiland

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