RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner

["Cherry, Kathleen G" <kathleen.g.cherry@lmco.com>]

Good idea-- we should discuss at the next ws-sec TC. 
I would love to see WS-sec have an interop demo somewhere! The SAML
interop at RSA 2004 did a lot to educate the "traditional" security
community about SAML's potential. This is key!
I agree with Tony Nadelin-- if you can use the same interop that you
already accomplished as part of your OASIS vetting process, those same
companies involved in that interop can demo at the conference.  No
additional cost.

Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four
sharpening the axe." (Abraham Lincoln) 
>Dr. Kate G. Cherry
>Chief Technologist Information Assurance
>Lockheed Martin 
>703.877.1206
>


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:10 PM
To: Kelvin Lawrence; Chris Kaler
Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org; Carol Geyer; Dee Schur; Weiland, John R.
NMIMC GS
Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner


> Does the OASIS WSS TC feel comfortable with that assertion?

Sounds like a question that should be asked at a TC distributed meeting.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 
17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3 
Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 
mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com

  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carol Geyer [mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org]
> Sent: August 11, 2004 11:48 AM
> To: 'Dee Schur'; 'Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS'; Paul Cotton
> Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> 
> We appreciate that you can't obligate your organizations at this
point,
> but
> we do need to get an idea of intentions before we can get anything off
the
> ground. We're caught in a chicken-and-egg scenario here.
> 
> In order to get a conference organizer to donate space, feature us in 
> their program, etc., we need to give them some idea of what we can 
> provide,
i.e.
> Dee needs to "sell" this to IDEAlliance.
> 
> Before you can get your organizations to commit to participate one way
or
> another, you need details of where/when/what.
> 
> Once we have an agreement from IDEAlliance, we can set our internal 
> deadlines for confirming participation. (Obviously, you'll need 
> commitments from one another to coordinate the technical details of an

> InterOp.)
We
> won't publicly release the final list of participants until right
before
> the
> conference.
> 
> What we need to know at this point is, are we safe in telling
IDEAlliance
> that we can provide them with a WSS InterOp at XML 2004, at which we 
> expect (not guarantee) at least five TC member organizations intend to
> participate?
> Does the OASIS WSS TC feel comfortable with that assertion?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dee Schur [mailto:dee.schur@oasis-open.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:48 AM
> To: 'Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS'; 'Paul Cotton'
> Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org; Dee Schur (Dee Schur); Carol Geyer
(Carol
> Geyer)
> Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> 
> Fair enough. As I am about to have a conversation with IDEAlliance, I
was
> simply trying to move the process along.
> Based on my experience, OASIS InterOps are extremely successful but in

> order to make them a success, it requires a commitment by a core 
> group. As a member of the OASIS staff, I make every effort to support 
> the work of
our
> technical committees but if this is not viewed as a worthwhile
activity,
> that is the decision of the TC. I just need to know who is on board
one
> way
> or the other. Then we can move towards agreeing on a scenario. 
> Regards, Dee
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS [mailto:JRWeiland@US.MED.NAVY.MIL]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:35 AM
> To: 'Paul Cotton'; Dee Schur
> Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org; Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS
> Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> 
> That was my intent as well.
> 
> r/ John
> 
> John R. Weiland
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> GS 2210 (APPSW) Code 38 Naval Medicine OnLine
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> 
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> http://navalmedicine.med.navy.mil/
> "GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH"
> A remark of Archimedes quoted by Pappus of Alexandria
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Dee Schur
> Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org; Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS
> Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> 
> 
> How did you get confirmation from Microsoft?
> 
> My emails suggesting the XML 2004 Conference was the better venue did
not
> obligate Microsoft to participate.
> 
> /paulc
> 
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dee Schur [mailto:dee.schur@oasis-open.org]
> > Sent: August 10, 2004 6:17 PM
> > To: 'Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS'; Paul Cotton
> > Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > OK, so are we set for the OASIS WSS InterOp at XML 2004? I have 
> > confirmation from;
> >
> > DataPower
> > Reactivity
> > Microsoft
> > US Dept of the Navy
> > Forum Systems
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS [mailto:JRWeiland@US.MED.NAVY.MIL]
> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:17 AM
> > To: 'Paul Cotton'; Dee Schur
> > Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> >
> > I agree,
> >
> > XML 2004, or Web Services Edge, would be better venues.  The Gartner

> > Conferences are generally high level.
> >
> > r/ John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:06 AM
> > To: Dee Schur
> > Cc: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> >
> >
> > I note that Nov 15-17 is the same timeframe as the XML 2004
> Conference,
> > in Washington, DC (http://www.xmlconference.org/xmlusa/) where OASIS
> did
> > interop demos last year.
> >
> > What are OASIS's plans for the XML 2004 conference?  Are you
planning
> to
> > do interop demos at both conferences or is the attached email
> expressing
> > a preference for the Gartner conference?
> >
> > /paulc
> >
> > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
> > > Sent: August 5, 2004 4:18 PM
> > > To: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: [wss] OASIS WSS Interop at Gartner
> > >
> > > [replies to Dee, please]
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We have been approached with a significant opportunity to increase
> the
> > > visibility of the work of an OASIS TC. Gartner is holding a
> conference
> > > in Orlando on 15-17 November,
> > > http://www3.gartner.com/2_events/conferences/apn13.jsp and they
have
> > > graciously offered to provide a space for an OASIS InterOp Demo.
As
> > some
> > > of you know, these events are very heavily attended and they have
> > agreed
> > > to promote the InterOp as well. We have another opportunity at
this
> > > event to present a workshop during a different slot and I would
like
> > to
> > > see a cooperative workshop from the TC that would support the
> InterOp.
> > > There will be some expenses involved and it will be necessary for
> > OASIS
> > > to pass those along to the participants. Since Gartner is
providing
> > the
> > > venue (which is the greatest expense), the participant will be
> > > responsible for AV, connectivity (if needed) and some printing
costs
> > > associated with creating an invitation which will prominently
> display
> > > all sponsor members logos, signage, etc. These costs are minimal
in
> > > comparison to the opportunity to highlight your efforts. We have
had
> > > tremendous success with OASIS InterOps in the past; rest assured
> this
> > > would be favorably reviewed.
> > >
> > > I need a reply fairly quickly as I will need to alert another TC
if
> > this
> > > is not doable for the WSS TC.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dee Schur
> > > OASIS Manager of Industry Outreach
> > > dee.schur@oasis-open.org
> > > +1 978.667.5115. x211
> > >
> > >
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