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Subject: RE: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded


The current document was produced within the TC, and I consider Phill and I to have been its authors and submitters.  With regard to this document, RSA Security and VeriSign are evaluating the prospect of providing a joint IP statement as was suggested on the 21 March TC call, but no determination has yet been reached on this question.

 

With respect to the prior RSA Security submission to the TC which formed an input to the current document, I consider myself to have been its author and submitter. Comments were received, considered, and sometimes reflected from others as it evolved through successive published drafts, but this seems distinct from authorship, at least in the sense in which I’m accustomed to using that term.  Two individuals (not TC members) were acknowledged and named in the submitted document based on having provided comments that were valuable in improving it, and we believe that the applicable OASIS IPR policy requirements were satisfied with respect to those named contributors when the RSA Security submission was made.  I’m glad that the submission’s technical content was able to benefit from comments contributed, but regret that the fact of their inclusion has caused concern within the TC.

 

--jl

 


From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:drsecure@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:43 PM
To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Cc: Abbie Barbir; Linn, John; wss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded

 

Understand, I think the issues revolve around the RSA submission and now we only have one document which includes the Verisign proposal so they can't be separated.

Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
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"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>

03/28/2006 03:27 PM

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"Abbie Barbir" <abbieb@nortel.com>, Anthony Nadalin/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "Linn, John" <jlinn@rsasecurity.com>

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RE: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded

 


From VeriSign's point of view we sent this out to OATH members for comment. No comments were received other than confirmation of receipt and having read it.

The only authors I am aware of at the VeriSign end are myself and Hans Granquist.


From: Abbie Barbir [mailto:abbieb@nortel.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:01 AM
To:
Anthony Nadalin; Linn, John
Cc:
wss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
RE: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded


Yes,
I do second Tony concerns.
Abbie


From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:drsecure@us.ibm.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:48 AM
To:
Linn, John
Cc:
wss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
RE: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded

If we look at the rest of the specifications in this TC we see that each of the authors have been able to make written statements that they are contributing the specification(s) to OASIS, with a clear statement about IP, this does not seem to be the case with this new specification. While you may have satisfied the section 3.1 this is a change from the rest of the specifications in the TC and IBM has concerns.


Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
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"Linn, John" <jlinn@rsasecurity.com>

03/21/2006 07:25 AM

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Anthony Nadalin/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, <wss@lists.oasis-open.org>

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RE: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded

 


Tony,


Thanks for the follow-up. I thought that this question had been resolved last fall, at least with respect to the RSA submission. As I understand the OASIS legacy IPR policy, sec. OASIS.IPR.3.1, requirements are levied on submitters with regard to the contributors named within a contribution (including a representation that major contributors are properly acknowledged), and it’s our position as submitter that those requirements have been satisfied with respect to this submission.


--jl


From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:drsecure@us.ibm.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:47 AM
To:
wss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
Re: [wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded

John, thanks for posting. I will go back to my IP issues I posted last year on this subject as in Appendix A of the document referenced below is are listed many contributors that are identified and many contributors that are not identified. So IBM has concerns as in the past (with the other specs we have worked on in this TC) we have been able to identify all of the authors of the specification(s) and they have been able to make written statements that they are contributing the specification(s) to OASIS, with a clear statement about IP. It seems that this can't be done with this document and thus we potentially expose the TC to a situation where the ownership and IP of the document's content is at best unclear.


Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122

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jlinn@rsasecurity.com

03/09/2006 11:38 AM

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[wss] Groups - OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1 1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) uploaded

 


Per the plan that Phill indicated in his 1 March message to the TC, weve
been working since then to produce a consolidated OTP-Token draft
reflecting contributions from both VeriSign and RSA Security. Im pleased
to report that this process has proceeded expeditiously and effectively,
and that were now able to upload a version with no technical conflicts
flagged as pending resolution. This is an initial draft, and we expect
that some changes following review will take place enroute to a
corresponding Committee Draft, but we believe that it represents a suitable
basis to support discussion within the TC. We look forward to your
comments, via email and/or at the next TC call on 21 March.

-- Mr John Linn

The document named OTP Token Consolidated Input Submission (wss-v1
1-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf) has been submitted by Mr John Linn to the
OASIS Web Services Security (WSS) TC document repository.

Document Description:
Profile for use of One-Time Password (OTP) tokens with WSS.



View Document Details:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/document.php?document_id=17081

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http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wss/download.php/17081/wss-v1%201-spec-os-OTPTokenProfile.pdf


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