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Subject: RE: [xacml] Notes for the call: Proposed Agenda, Sept. 19 Concal l...
I really don't appreciate being quoted out of context from private e-mails. -Polar On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Daniel Engovatov wrote: > It is possible I will have to miss the call. > > I wanted to submit a vote on Funciton 0.9/0.11 additions > - I want to ask you to review my posts for the details. > I am opposed to the inclusion of "higher-order" functions into the spec > until the semantics of the function extension point is clarified. > > 1) There was no use case presented that requires such addition. None. > > 2) While <Match> restrictions, as we discussed with Polar today, do solve > the issue with suitability of Match for indexing - it is not even needed, if > we do not specify the syntax that causes the need for this written > restrictions > > 3) Quting Polar: "Huh? From inside the extension function you can do what > ever you want. It's your ball game." I very much disagree that we should > just drop the ball on trying to specify a useful portable semantics and > definitions for extensions. Any language is as useful as its libraries. > > 4) If we decide to use "map" functions with return type specified by one of > its argument, we may just as well allow simple overloading of function names > based on the type of its argument. Then - specifying comparison operator to > be overloaded, in the same way, for bag arguments will eliminate the need > for the additions (if there was any). > > While I understand that many do not care about this area - in my opnion it > is a deciding factor in XACML usability. > > Regards, > Daniel > > > > 10:00-10:05 Roll Call and Agenda Review > 10:05-10:10 Vote to accept minutes of September 12 concall > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg000 > <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg000> 90.html > 10:10-10:15 Review of Action Items (see 9/12 minutes) > 10:15-10:30 Discussion (and vote?) on the Functions 0.9 draft (Polar, > Daniel) > 10:30-10:40 Discussion (and vote?) on remaining v0.16 technical change > requests (all) > 10:40-10:50 XACML Primer discussion (Konstantin, Hal) > 10:50-10:55 Discussion of XACML token submission for WSS (Tim, Carlisle) > > 10:55-11:00 Discussion of schedule for Committee Spec (Carlisle) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> >
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