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Subject: Re: [xacml] [Fwd: Re: [wss] TC for Policy in support of WSS and o theractivities]

Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
> Sorry, can't make it due to prior engagements.
> In the past two weeks I have had people proposing meetings around this
> stuff that if I attended all of them would involve 27,326 air miles, all
> at two weeks notice or less.


I'm sorry if the late scheduling of this meeting inconvenienced
you or made it impossible for you to attend.

As you suggest, we will be looking at what needs to be done from a wider 
perspective. For example, although the XACML folks have been focusing on 
the representation and processing of authorization policy, we value 
their expertise, and would like to encourage them to help us describe 
what a policy framework for negotiating a solution from intersecting 
sets of requirements and capabilities should look like.

In the event that the storm changes your travel plans, let me know
and I'll make sure we have a place for you.


> My ten cents is that as I said at Redmond I believe that this problem is
> lead by whatever decisions are made about the wider WS-Policy issues.
> Give me a framework an the security issues fall out pretty easily. The
> problem is the framework and that is one where I want to see the XML and
> WSDL people at work on the problem.
> 		Phill
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ronald monzillo [mailto:ronald.monzillo@sun.com]
>>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:19 PM
>>To: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Subject: [xacml] [Fwd: Re: [wss] TC for Policy in support of WSS and
>>other activities]
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: Re: [wss] TC for Policy in support of WSS and other 
>>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:29:32 -0500
>>From: ronald monzillo <ronald.monzillo@sun.com>
>>To: "'Web Services Security'" <wss@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>This message contains the agenda for the policy meeting
>>SUN will be hosting on Feb 21 at its Sun Burlington MA.
>>This meeting will focus on the characterization of the
>>policy related functionality required to support the
>>interoperable use of mechanisms, including, but not
>>limited to, the SOAP message security mechanisms being
>>defined by the Web Services Security TC. The purpose of
>>the meeting will be to capture these requirements in
>>proposed charters for one or more open forums that will
>>serve the industry by providing solutions to these
>>important problems.
>>We intend to convene this meeting without requiring a
>>pre-meeting legal agreement. The meeting will be a
>>discussion of an important class of interoperability
>>problems and will not attempt to craft or enhance a
>>technical specification built on contributions from
>>the attendees. No attendee should have any expectations
>>regarding the confidentiality of the meeting, its contents,
>>or its results. Each speaker must be responsible for what
>>they choose to say, keeping in mind that no expectation of
>>confidentiality should be presumed to apply to the statements
>>they make.
>>We request that those who have not yet done so confirm their
>>intentto attend or participate by teleconference so that we
>>can reserve sufficient space and call-in capacity. We also
>>encourage you to share this invitation with others who you
>>feel may be interested or should participate. We will
>>distribute call in details before the meeting.
>>The meeting will begin at 8:30 A.M. (EST) and end at
>>about 5:30 P.M.
>>The following is the proposed Agenda:
>>8:00-8:30 Continental Breakfast
>>8:30-8:45 Welcome and Introductions
>>8:45-9:00 Agenda Review and Refinement
>>9:00-10:30 Use Cases and Example Scenarios
>>      What types of policy negotiation problems do we seek
>>      solutions for?
>>      What is the nature of the interactions whose properties
>>      are being negotiated?
>>      What is the relationship of the negotiation to
>>      the interaction whose properties are being negotiated?
>>      Where in the interactions is there a need to apply
>>      the policies of the various actors in an interaction?
>>10:30-10:45 Break
>>10:45-12:30 Detailed Problem Characterization and Decomposition
>>      Consideration of the following aspects and others
>>      as appropriate.
>>      The distribution or other communication of
>>      policy between interacting entities
>>      The grouping of related policy statements or the
>>      composition of policy from smaller perhaps reusable
>>      statment groups.
>>      The reconciliation of policy negotiation with
>>      a layered processing model
>>      The need for a semantic model in which to
>>      configure, manage, and interpret (including
>>      in combination) groups of policy staments.
>>      The need to allow for (perhaps decentralized)
>>      evolution of the policy framework or statement model.
>>12:30-1:30 Lunch
>>1:30-3:15 Presentation and collaborative development of
>>     Work descriptions suitable for inclusion in the
>>     charters of one or more forums.
>>3:30-3:45 Break
>>3:45-5:50 Charter Discussion
>>      What forums (eg. TCs), if any, do we perceive as the
>>      appropriate host for a particular piece of work?
>>      Definition of next steps:
>>      How do we transfer problem description(s) to the
>>      appropriate forums, including potentially by deciding
>>      to charter a new forum?
>>      Discussion of forum specific requirements, collection
>>      of advocates, sponsors, etc, to meet the requirements
>>      of the standard organization.

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