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Subject: Minutes of XACML TC Meeting 20 March 2003
XACML TC Meeting - 20 March 2003 10am Present: Anne Anderson - minute taker Carlisle Adams Tony Nadalin - prospective Michiharu Kudo Ken Yagen Tim Moses Simon Godik Maryann Hondo - prospective? Hal Lockhart Quorum present. 1. Previous minutes Approved 2nd Draft Minutes from 6 March 2003 TC meeting From: Anne Anderson Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:36:22 -0500 Subject: [xacml] 2nd Draft Minutes of 6 March 2003 TC Meeting 2. Status of XACML 1.1 possible work items Concrete problem statements due by 3 April 2003. a) Fully specify hierarchical resources [Simon lead; Satoshi, Michiharu] DONE. From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@Sun.COM> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:27:42 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] Problem Statement for "Fully specify hierarchical resources" b) Define new combining algorithms for deterministic Obligations. [Michiharu lead?] NOT DONE. c) ebXML: Allow references to Rules (as we now allow for policies and policy sets) [Anne] DONE. From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@sun.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:39:37 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] Concrete problem statement for references to rules d) Incorporate fixes for errata ACTION ITEM: Simon Godik. e) Condition reference: From the policy, a specific condition expression is referred to by using condition ID that is defined in the condition definition block. [Michiharu] DONE. From: "Michiharu Kudoh" <KUDO@jp.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:21:59 +0900 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] Problem Statement for "Condition Reference" f) Properties for new combining algorithms [Michiharu] DONE. From: "Michiharu Kudoh" <KUDO@jp.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:06:14 +0900 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] Problem Statement for "Properties for new combining algorithms" g) Obligations in rule element [Michiharu] DONE DONE: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200303/msg00006.html h) Define any elements needed in the XACML schemas for use by a Digital Signature envelope for XACML [Anne; proposals invited] NONE NEEDED. Item closed unless proposal submitted. i) Add an ID Attribute so can reference elements easily for use with Digital Signatures. ACTION ITEM: Simon 3. Status of XACML 2.0 items 4. XACML Extensions a) Web Services Policy Language (WSPL) [Anne lead; Tim, Simon, Maryann, Tony] Use cases, requirements posted: From: Tim Moses <tim.moses@entrust.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:46:27 -0500 To: "'XACML'" <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] WSPL use-cases Anne posted a proposal: From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@sun.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:21:17 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] Evaluating XACML as a Policy Language - Draft 2.0 Tim to post a proposal today Tony, Maryann will submit alternate proposals b) Information about how/where to obtain policies and attributes; how to authenticate them (e.g. trust anchors) [Anne] STATUS: Probably not to be submitted until WSPL work is done. 7. XACML for privacy policies (exploration of whether and how XACML can be used to express privacy policies) [Carlisle lead; Bill, Simon, Michiharu] STATUS: Carlisle has done some thinking about this; hopes to write up in next few weeks. Simon may also post something, but will definitely participate in discussion. IBM Zurich has done some work in this area: EPAL; Tony will send URL to mailing list. W3C is starting up privacy work with web services: P3P. 2f) Define a set of domain-specific identifiers (action, combining algorithm etc.) that are used in well-known domains e.g. UNIX ACL, Windows, database ... [Michiharu] STATUS: Michiharu will start posting around April or May. 4. WSPL Sub-committee Tentative plan to hold WSPL subcommittee meetings on Mondays from 10-11am, starting 31 March 2003. To be confirmed on the mailing list (some members may not be available; depends on additional proposals to mailing list that need voice-to-voice discussion). Try to put "WSPL" in the Subject line for WSPL topics on mailing list. 5. Conformance Test Suite STATUS: several updates posted. Most recent: From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@Sun.COM> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:17:17 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org>, XACML COMMENT <xacml-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml-comment] Updated XACML Conformance Test Suite New tests submitted by Satoshi Hada not yet incorporated, but will be soon. Possibility of Satoshi taking over maintenance of the Test Suite: Michiharu and Satoshi will discuss off-line. 6. Meeting time Possibility of changing meeting time to be more convenient for Japan. 10am EST is midnight Japan time. Daylight Saving Time will start 1st Sunday of April in US and last Sunday in March in EU. Michiharu prefers 11pm to 7am Japan time. Gerald is only European member currently. Carlisle will post some options to mailing list. 7. Primer: Brief Introduction to XACML Sun has contributed document to XACML: From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@sun.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:36:02 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] Contribution: A Brief Introduction to XACML Hal says almost no overlap with the document he is composing. 9. Implementer's Guide Hal posted a Word version of the Implementer's Guide: From: Hal Lockhart <hlockhar@bea.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:59:25 -0500 To: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xacml] Initial Implementer's Guide One comment has come in on mis-interpretation of one of the combining algorithms and meaning of "singleton bag": From: Satoshi Hada <SATOSHIH@jp.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:57:41 +0900 To: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] Initial Implementer's Guide 10. XACML XML DSig Profile Updated version posted: From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:30:09 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] XACML XML DSig Profile 0.2 11. Input to SAML 2.0 Revised document posted: From: Anne Anderson <Anne.Anderson@sun.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:11:34 -0500 To: XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: [xacml] SAML Profile draft Schedule vote on submitting to SAML for next TC meeting. Post comments in the next week, so we can update proposal prior to vote if necessary. 12. Simon Godik's e-mail to list being rejected. Current address is: simon.godik@overxeer.com Hal will fix this on the xacml list. 13. Upcoming meetings 17 Mar 2003, 10-11am EST: XACML Focus Group 31 Mar 2003, 10-11am EST: XACML WSPL SC (tentative) 3 Apr 2003, 10-11am EDT: XACML TC Adjourned at 10:48am.
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