Subject: minutes for August 7, 2003
Steve Crocker (scribe)
Quorum is reached.
Minutes from last meeting were not published, probably not recorded.
Hal will reconstruct minutes from memory and submit for the next
Adjenda for the meeting:
The WSPL spec and voting it as a committee spec;
Getting 1.1 finalized as a committe spec;
Discuss need for a F2F prior to getting deeply into 2.0;
Review 2.0 work items.
Item: Voting on the WSPL Spec as a committe spec.
Hal said the WSPL spec has been available for review. Tim said the
original plan targeted a vote in Sept. We currently don't have
profile for WSPL 2. Tim wants to pospone any voting action on the
spec until Sept 18th to which Hal agreed.
Item: closing 1.1 out
Simon said the comments on 1.1 were made on things such as
missspellings, an example attribute value, updated committe members
list. Hal wants to see it in final form, before the vote. Simon will
send Hal the word doc who will then generate a pdf file (Hal
recommends www.pdf995.com for their free Word print driver which
generates a pdf file) and post it for a final vote as
a committe spec.
Item: Proposal to SAML for an authorization type that would accomodate
an XACML request.
Since the Open Grid Services Architecture (OGSA) security
infrastructure has a similar proposal for SAML, the idea is to bring
them in line and make a joint proposal to SAML. SAML face to face
will be in early Sept. so we want to get that proposal ready before
then. We'll use the Aug 21 meeting to focus on that. It will be an
abbreviated business meeting on 21st, then we'll spend rest of the
time and perhaps more to the SAML proposal.
Item: XACML face-to-face in October
It was agreed there is a need for a face-to-face. Possible
conflicting conferences are the Global Grid Forum (Oct 5-9). Hal took
an action item to generate ballots for possible times (2,3,4th weeks
in oct) and places (east or west coast).
Item: Step through the current list of 2.0 work items published in
Anne's email of Aug 1.
The idea was to update the list and get champions for the items. In
the end, it was mainly Hal going over the list since there wasn't a
great deal of open discussion today.
Simon stated he cannot do the editing for the 2.0 spec.
Hal said we'll need 2 people to volunteer for the editing job.
The methodology for getting 1.0 out worked well, which included a
deadline for when each item would be well specified, and a deadline
for getting to general agreement on the approach to an item or more
prefereably the general text of the solution.
Hal stepped through Anne's email of
A few comments made along the way that were not in Anne's email:
1. grid requirements:
includes SAML 2.0 proposal and changes to XACML
Frank: has exchanged email w/ Anne & Jim listing requirements
and features wanted.
Hal: send a summary so we all can see it.
Frank volunteered to be the champion for item 1.
2. Location information:
This item is related to schema for function declarations
(item 24) which Daniel is interested in.
19. Rules as administrative units:
This seems to conflict with the CORBA model, but ebxml people
It came up that Seth is co-author of a paper covering XACML usage
experience which has been submitted to the ACM conference on Computer
Communication Security to be held Oct 21st. Michiharu is program
chair for the conference. Seth will submit a copy of the paper so we
can get an advance look at it and incorporate the experience into our
direction for 2.0.
Hal prompted people to submit any new work items for 2.0, or to submit
any use cases supporting a position (one way or another) on a work
Meeting was adjorned.
Next week is the focus group.
Regular meeting is in 2 weeks. It will have a short adjenda and then
the meeting will move on to the joint XACML and OGSA proposal to SAML.