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Subject: New Issue#66: XACML-Core 2.0,3.0 Missing attributes may be underspecified


I have added the following issue to the issues list:

    http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xacml/IssuesList

The point of the issue (below) is not to identify trivialities with the example, but
to use the example as a basis for some general comments more toward
end of the issue description. It seemed to me that using the example
as context would be an effective way to raise the somewhat complex
issues/concerns that are the main point here. (I will be happy to
re-edit the issue if that makes sense after people have had a
chance to look at it).

    Thanks,
    Rich

66. Missing attributes may be underspecified

I did a somewhat detailed analysis of "Example two" in the core spec from the point of view of understanding how fine grained authorization (fga) (applying resource attrs to az decision) was implemented and came across a number of items that I think need to be addressed especially in potential interoperability situations. I will put all in one issue initially, we can decide if it needs to be broken out later.

1. line 1090-91 describing ResourceContent. In both the core spec and the sample messages, the ResourceContent contains the following:

While I recognize that the example itself is not intended to be perfect, it provides a convenient context for raising the following questions/issues, especially wrt fga.

  1. If this is a first request from a PEP, why is the PEP supplying patient-number on line 1056? This looks like a required attr to evaluate Rule 1 (line 1141), if the requestor is the patient, but this example the requestor is the physician.

    • The physician-id is supplied in the request (line 1044), but the only rule it appears in is rule 3 (line 1522). This rule only allows "write" access (line 1507), so I expect this request would probably fail as it is currently set up. i.e. we would need to add a "read" action to rule 3 or add a physician-id test to rule 1.

  • b. Assuming the above request fails, let's consider what might be done. There was a "read" request issued (line 1072), so that would mean that rule 1 (line 1182), rule 2 (line 1347), or rule 4 (line 1668) could be applied.

Rule 1 requires a Subject attribute patient-number (line 1134) to match the patient-number in the requested resource record (line 1141). Presumably a <MissingAttributeDetail> could be returned, somehow identifying these 2 attributes to the PEP.

Rule 2 requires a patientDoB resource attr (line 1297), a parent-guardian-id subject attr (line 1363), and a parentGuardianId resource attr (line 1371). Similarly a <MissingAttributeDetail> could be returned requesting these.

  • Assuming this to be the case, one question I have is how does the <MissingAttributesDetail> tell the PEP whether the attributes that are missing should be resubmitted as part of the Subject or as part of the Resource? This info is provided in the Request from the xml structure, however, the <MissingAttributeDetail> does not have equivalent structure to make such distinctions.

The above is intended just to give an example of questions that occur for this particular example, but it is my opinion that it is symptomatic of a general problem of how PEPs are supposed to know how to construct the proper RequestContext necessary, in general, for complex scenarios that require substantive fga attrs.

In these more complex fga scenarios it is likely that <MissingAttributeDetail> will be typically needed to collect all the required attributes. Therefore, I believe some more robust mechanisms, possibly using MissingAttributeDetail as a good starting point will be needed to adequately define operation in this area.

In this context as well, it is likely that xpaths are probably not the way to go since they are only applicable to certain types of resources (xml-based) and those resource structures are likely to change in time, and these changes should not percolate into the enterprise Policy arena. Therefore, mechanisms such as vocabularies should be recommended usage here with the PEP being responsible for mapping the vocabulary item to the particular resource physical access path such as the xpath.

CHAMPION: Rich

Status: OPEN



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