Re: [xacml] F2F proposed agenda updated

[bill parducci <bill@parducci.net>]

I am open to any configuration the TC comes up with but I think it is highly optimistic to think that "first decisions" will come out of 1 hour and 15 minutes of discussion on issues 11 & 16, and then closure after another 1:15 session--particular given that these issue have been open and hotly debated for several months.

b

On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Erik Rissanen wrote:

> All,
> 
> Currently the proposed agenda is very "waterfall" formatted. First we do core, then hierarchical, then multiple. I think it would be better to interleave the issues across several iterations. That way I could push out updated working drafts during the days to clear up wording issues, etc, across multiple iterations. I am afraid that a "big bang" attempt to solve the thorny issues are going to take up all the time unless we section them up into smaller pieces which get written down in a working draft for common understanding.
> 
> 
> Tuesday - December 8
> 
> 9:00 - 9:15: Roll, administrivia, agenda review
> 9:15 - 9:30 Discuss process, reqs for Issues 29, 30, 31
> 9:30 - 10:30  Issues 3, 4 (core): first decisions
> 10:30 - 10:45 Break
> 10:45 - 12:00 Issues 11, 16 (Hierarchical): first decisions
> 12:00 - 1:00 Lunch
> 1:00 - 2:30 Issues 19, 23, 25, 26, 61 (Multi-resource): first decisions
> 2:30 - 2:45 Break
> 2:45 - 5:00 Issue 60 (Profile relationship): first outline
> 5:00 Recess
> 
> Wednesday - December 9
> 
> 8:00 - 8:30 Review & Agenda confirmation
> 8:30 - 10:30 Issues 3, 4 (core): closing
> 10:30 - 10:45 Break
> 10:45 - 12:00 Issues 11, 16 (Hierarchical): closing
> 12:00 - 1:00 Lunch
> 1:00 - 2:30 Issues 19, 23, 25, 26, 61 (Multi-resource): closing
> 2:30 - 2:45 Break
> 2:45 - 4:30 Issue 60 (Profile relationship): closing
> 4:30 - 5:00 Planning the next day
> 5:00 Recess
> 
> Hopefully we can spend the third day on future work.
> 
> I hope to be able to prepare new drafts during the night Tu-We or maybe during the daytime breaks.
> 
> I haven't redone the agenda on the wiki yet. Thought I'll post my proposal here first for some feedback.
> 
> To prepare, I think it would be good if we all arrive at the F2F with a ready list of current/competing proposals on all the issues so we are all understand the proposals and so we can dig straight in. I will start another thread for calling for enumeration of proposals. I will collect a first version of the list myself.
> 
> Best regards,
> Erik
> 
> 
> 
> On 2009-11-30 14:12, Tyson, Paul H wrote:
>> I suggest grouping all the xpath-related issues together for discussion
>> at once.  That would cover issues 3, 11, 16, 61, 62, and my recent
>> proposal that does not have an issue number yet
>> (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00072.html).  This
>> could take several sessions.
>> 
>> --Paul
>> 
>>   
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bill parducci [mailto:bill@parducci.net]
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 09:29
>>> To: XACML TC
>>> Subject: [xacml] F2F proposed agenda updated
>>> 
>>> I have updated the proposed agenda for the F2F to begin
>>> assigning time blocks to specific topics. Note that this
>>> agenda calls for the TC meeting scheduled for December 10th
>>> to be moved back 1 hour. The idea here is to allow the
>>> meeting to coincide with the F2F time boundaries and to
>>> provide a specific point at which official TC business may
>>> occur (voting, etc.)
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xacml/MeetingAgenda
>>> 
>>> Please review the agenda and provide comments/suggestions to the list.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> b
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