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Subject: Minutes for 17 June 2010 TC Meeting
Time: 13:00 EDT Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998 Minutes for 17 June 2010 TC Meeting: 13:00 - 13:05 Roll Call & Approve Minutes: Roll Call: Erik Rissanen Paul Tyson Bell Gareth Richards Bill Parducci Dilli Arumugam Rich Levinson Hal Lockhart John Tolbert David Staggs Nao Itoi non voting Mike Davis, VA we have quorum Hal: agenda ok? ok Approve Minutes: 3 June 2010 TC Meeting http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00003.html Hal: approve minutes: unanimous consent? yes Administrivia General FYI notices: OASIS IDtrust Member Section Steering Committee Nominations Now Open http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00005.html Hal: xacml may not be member, just fyi Exclusive Discount for OASIS Members at Structure 2010 Cloud conference: June 23-24: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00002.html Hal: above is self-explanatory Spam has been regularly appearing on dev and users email lists: (most messages since Mar 2010 are spam - has been reported but no action yet - probably needs more vigorous escalation - note: it also affects other TC dev groups) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-dev/ http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-users/ Rich: just for awareness; sites seem to be bogus and just looking to collect papers. XACML v3.0 - status 30-day Public Review ended Sunday, June 6,2010: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201005/msg00030.html Hal: only bugs reported (below and): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00011.html Hal: should we go w specs as is or another round. Erik: either way John: would like to clean up Hal: leaning toward clean up Erik/Hal: both changes not substantial, but ... Rich: RequestContextPath vs Path is new to 3.0, so thinks desirable get the fix. Hal: any objections to having Erik make the changes for vote on next call? no objections - will do that, i.e. the fixes will be made bug reported in spec on Jun 9: (in example, used old RequestContextPath instead of new Path) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00004.html Hal asks if easy fix: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00009.html Erik: for new drafts: the big item, which is error prone is updating the schema namespace; don't update to reflect the working draft number. Hal: Ludwig's chg is in the spec, but leaves the schema intact, so that does not require chg. IPR/Export: Hal: prev asked vote on export control, but got pushback because doc chg'd since last pub rev, should have vote to say chgs not substantive. Hal: formula we want to follow is in updated version of april 8 minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201004/msg00012.html procedure is about what was done w designated cross refs. XACML Intellectual Property Control (IPC) Profile Version 1.0 Committee Draft 2 17 June 2010 John makes a motion to advance the following document (IPC Profile) from a working draft an official Committee Draft: IPC Profile email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00017.html IPC Profile doc details: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38328 IPC Profile doc: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38328/xacml-3.0-ipc-v1-spec-cd-02-en.doc It is noted that the doc contains no substantive changes since the last public review. It is also noted that the doc contains a designated cross reference: as defined in TC Process section 2.19. It is understood that this may delay the date the spec reaches approved status. The designated cross-reference is: eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) Version 3.0 Committee Draft 03 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37088/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-03-en.zip It is expected to become an OASIS Standard by September 30, 2010. Paul seconds the motion. Hal any objections to unanimous consent? none heard: *** Motion is approved to move IPC Profile to Committee Draft. John: makes a motion for the IPC Profile document above that was just approved as a CD to be advanced to a Committee Specification (CS), by requesting TC-Admin to hold a ballot for approving the IPC Profile as a Committee Specification. Paul seconds the motion. Hal any objections to unanimous consent? none heard: *** Motion is approved to request TC Admin to hold a TC Ballot to advance the IPC Profile to Committee Specification. XACML 3.0 Export Compliance-US (EC-US) Profile Version 1.0 Committee Draft 03 17 June 2010 Paul: makes a motion to advance the following document (IPC Profile) from a working draft an official Committee Draft: Export Control Profile email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00016.html Export Control Profile doc details: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38326 Export Control Profile doc: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38326/xacml-3.0-ec-us-v1-spec-cd-03-en.doc It is noted that the doc contains no substantive changes since the last public review. It is also noted that the doc contains a designated cross reference: as defined in TC Process section 2.19. It is understood that this may delay the date the spec reaches approved status. The designated cross-reference is: eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) Version 3.0 Committee Draft 03 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37088/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-03-en.zip It is expected to become an OASIS Standard by September 30, 2010. John seconds the motion. Hal any objections to unanimous consent? none heard: *** Motion is approved to move Export Control Profile to Committee Draft. Paul: makes a motion for the Export Control Profile document above that was just approved as a CD to be advanced to a Committee Specification (CS), by requesting TC-Admin to hold a ballot for approving the Export Control Profile as a Committee Specification. John seconds the motion. Hal any objections to unanimous consent? none heard: *** Motion is approved to request TC Admin to hold a TC Ballot to advance the Export Control Profile to Committee Specification. Hal: date of docs needs to chg to today's date, then put docs in the same place. Issues/Topics Possible post-3.0 issue on Target/Category semantics (sections 3.3.1.1 and 5.6 have specific issues, while overall use of the terms: "issuer", "attributes", "category", "entity" may need some general clarification): comments from Rich, Erik http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201006/msg00008.html Paul: submitted question on this some time back Erik: is there specific change proposal? Hal: today we are trying to scope the problem, but let's ask: is the text broken? Paul: although when wording clarified, problem was transitioning to 3.0 target, things were expressive Hal: in the interim, let's try to disambiguate; as an interim might make sense to drafting. Paul: would be desirable to define formal semantics of this esp wrt rule languages that are coming out, then run into issues. Rich: start by proposing alternatives, before doing details on alternatives Other topics: 1. David: looking at ontology decision point Hal: is that visible to people? David: nothing ready for public consumption, if anyone has ideas how ontology can be useful? Hal: if could post to list would be helpful 2. David: HHS will have demo; transcript will be on web in couple days. Hal: Next meeting 2 weeks.
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