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Subject: Re: [xacml] TC Meeting 28 April 2011

Hi Bill

there are missing headings in the minutes as follows


On 28/04/2011 19:19, Bill Parducci wrote:
> I. Roll Call
>   Voting Members
>    Hal Lockhart (Chair)
>    Bill Parducci (Co-Chair, minutes)
>    Paul Tyson
>    Doron Grinstein
>    Remon Sinnema
>    Gregory Neven
>    Franz-Stefan Preiss
>    Jan Herrmann
>    John Tolbert
>   Members
>    David Chadwick
>    David Choy
>    John Mike Davis
> Quorum met: (57% per Kavi)
> I. Roll Call&  Approve Minutes:
>     21 April 2011 TC Meeting:
>     APPROVED unanimously
> II. Administrivia
>    F2F Information
>    Will be held in Lexington, MA at the Boeing facility
>    28th, 29th,30th June
>    John Tolbert to publish logistics information
>    Webinar
>    Erik, Doron and Hal will be presenting. Contents being worked on now.
> III. Issues

>   BTG - delete

Attribute predicate profile for SAML and XACML

>    David,- delete

is in the process of splitting document into a SAML Profile
>    and XACML profile. He is a bit unclear as to what is needed in XACML
>    profile based upon Paul's comments on the list. Hal offered that a
>    Profile may created or an artifact on non-normative document track.
>    Greg noted that he is awaiting feedback from the SAML group on the
>    proposal made to that group.


>    David summarized the current discussion into 4 basic topics:
>    1. Use existing components in a standard way (general approval)
>    2. Should be a BTG state attribute (general approval)
>    3. BTG response from PDP? User knows if has BTG privilege. (open)
>    4. Should there be an Obligation or special BTG response management?
>       (open)
>    Mike suggested that state need to broadened to be more generic than
>    BTG. Hal offered that a generalize dynamic state manager that could
>    be used for notification, etc.
>    The current mechanisms outlined are Obligation/Advice and Missing
>    Information.
>    Mike suggested that the case of the request spanning organizations
>    is fundamentally different than than an internal solution. He
>    suggested that BTG capabilities be indicated upon initial interface
>    with the PEP. Bill suggested that BTG doesn't have context until a
>    Deny has been issued.
>    Hal contrasted the flow diagrams posted to the list by Paul and
>    David--PDP and PEP manages the BTG state. Paul intended that the PDP
>    return a Deny with Advice.
>    Doron offered that an Advice on a Deny would allow for a simple
>    Profile that would be reasonably interoperable. David noted that an
>    Obligation was used in the proposal for XACML v2 compliance.
> meeting adjourned.
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