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Subject: Minutes for 21 July 2011 TC Meeting


Time: 13:00 EDT
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Minutes for 21 July 2011 TC Meeting:

I Roll Call

Quorum rule	51% of voting members
Achieved quorum	true
Counts toward voter eligibility	true
Individual Attendance	Members: 7 of 108 (6%)
Voting Members: 7 of 12 (58%) (used for quorum calculation)
Company Attendance	Companies: 6 of 44 (13%)
Voting Companies: 6 of 8 (75%)

Meeting Attendees
Name	Company	Status
David Brossard	Axiomatics	Group Member
Remon Sinnema	EMC	Group Member
Bill Parducci*	Individual	Group Member
Anthony Nadalin	Microsoft	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle	Group Member
Hal Lockhart	Oracle	Group Member
John Tolbert	The Boeing Company*	Group Member

   Approve Minutes:

    14 July 2011 Meeting:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00008.html

    minutes approved no objection


    28->30 June 2001 F2F Meeting:
     (Still need to be approved because did not have quorum at last mtg)

     F2F Day 1: 8:30AM - 11:00AM - UPDATED
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00019.html
     F2F Day 1: 11:00AM - 12:30PM
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00076.html
     F2F Day 1: 1:30PM - 5:00PM
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00080.html

     F2F Day 2: 9:00AM - 12:15PM
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00094.html
     F2F Day 2: 1:30PM - 5:00PM
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00089.html

     F2F Day 3:
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00099.html

    minutes approved no objection


II Administrivia


   F2F - Review minutes for action items, decisions of significance

    V3 Status:
     Hal contacted Ray and Steven: both have completed their comments,
     and Hal recommends moving to bring current drafts back to CS:
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00013.html

**************************

Motion to make the updated SAML Profile working draft named
  xacml-3.0-core-wd19-saml-wd14.zip a Committee Specification Draft
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/download.php/41842/xacml-3.0-core-wd19-saml-wd14.zip

    move to promote: john
    second: tony
	no objection: passes


Motion to make the updated RBAC Profile working draft named
  xacml-3.0-rbac-v1-spec-wd-09-en.doc a Committee Specification Draft
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/download.php/42276/xacml-3.0-rbac-v1-spec-wd-09-en.doc

    move to promote: hal
    second: john
	no objection: passes


Motion to make the updated XACML V3 Core Specification working draft named
  xacml-3.0-core-spec-wd-22-en.doc a Committee Specification Draft
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/download.php/42707/xacml-3.0-core-spec-wd-22-en.doc

    move to promote: ray
    second: hal
	no objection: passes


Motion to submit the SAML Profile Committee Specification Draft
  for 15 day Public Review.

    move to public review: john
    second: hal
	no objection: passes


Motion to submit the RBAC Profile Committee Specification Draft
  for 15 day Public Review.

    move to public review: rich
    second: john
	no objection: passes


Motion to submit the XACML V3 Core Committee Specification Draft
  for 15 day Public Review.

    move to public review: ray
    second: john
	no objection: passes


  ->  bill: bill and hal will go to oasis
	   to start 15 pub review process


**************************

    Proposed Policy Language Overview presentation
     by Andrea Westerinen of CA Technologies
     suggested by John for TC to consider (doc w pres uploaded):
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00009.html
     Doron agrees talk would be good idea:
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00010.html

     john: saw at mtg couple months ago; really good - tc might like
	to review (about 90 min)
     ray: is possible for 1 hr?
     john: probably, but would prefer extended mtg;
	will contact her today.

    Timing of TC meetings - plan in last weeks minutes requires
     follow-up today:
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00008.html
     bill: currently on "off week"; propose next week to meet,
      then return to 2 week sched
     rich, john, ray agree it's good idea
     bill: ok, we will go back to 2-week after next mtg next wk

    bill: any other business to discuss today?
	none raised
    bill: meeting adjourned
	1:26 PM


    F2F Agenda: Repeated here to collect summary items:
     i.e. any actions associated with these topics to carry forward:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00066.html

     Tuesday 6/28: 8AM-12PM
      BTG
      PIP Directive

     Tuesday 6/28: 1PM-5PM
      Open Issues against current drafts
      JSON Profile
      "Web Friendly" Policy Ids
      Attribute Predicates

     Wednesday 6/29: 8AM-12PM
      Obligation/Advice Combining
      XACML Metadata Schema
      Review of other dormant work items

     Wednesday 6/29: 1PM-5PM
      PAP Interface
      "Sticky" Policies

     Thursday 6/30: 8AM-12PM
      OpenAz Presentation
      Distributed Combining


III Issues:

  New Issues:

   Proposed list of XACML 2.0 ->  3.0 differences:
    Doron proposed:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00015.html
    comments from Abbie, David B.:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00016.html
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00017.html

   Examples of XACML implementations
    Ray proposal (pls clarify if context is 2.0/3.0/both?):
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00014.html
    David B. volunteers support:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00018.html

   xacml-dev: Target Matching question (root PDP Policy issue):
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-dev/201107/msg00000.html
    several follow-up comments from TC and others:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-dev/201107/maillist.html

   xacml-users: SAML/XACML usage questions (several msgs in this link):
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-users/201107/msg00006.html
    related question on saml/xacml schema usage:
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-users/201107/msg00007.html

   Terminology issue: Need "entity" notion in spec and/or support doc:
    rich has action (last wk's minutes):
     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00008.html

   Bug in conformance test?:
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201107/msg00002.html

  Old Issues: (Review status for chgs after F2F):

   Obligations/Advice combining
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00007.html

   WD-20 Questions/Issues
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00011.html

   XACML PEP (nee PDP REST Interface)
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201106/msg00009.html

   Indeterminate Policy Target
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201105/msg00114.html

   XACML Implementers Guide
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201105/msg00113.html

   Attribute predicate profile for SAML and XACML - ray comment
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201105/msg00088.html

   XACML Metadata
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201105/msg00004.html

   Attribute predicate Profile for SAML and XACML
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201104/msg00080.html

   Break The Glass Profile
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201104/msg00082.html

   Profile Examples (Hierarchy)
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200910/msg00024.html

   PIP directive (additional information directives)
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201010/msg00005.html

   Usage of status:missing-attribute in case of an AttributeSelector
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201104/msg00003.html

   "Web Friendly" Policy Ids
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201103/msg00046.html

   Specifying a specific associated Resource in a Policy (Sticky Policies)
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201103/msg00012.html








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