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Subject: Minutes for 12 January 2012 TC Meeting
Time: 13:00 EST (GMT-0500) Tel: 513-241-0892 Access Code: 65998 Minutes for 12 January 2012 TC Meeting: I Roll Call& Minutes voting: Crystal Hayes Richard Hill Rich Levinson Hal Lockhart Bill Parducci Remon Sinnema John Tolbert Paul Tyson non-voting: Jan Herrmann Danny Thorpe Voting Members: 8 of 11 (72%) (used for quorum calculation) Approve Minutes: 15 December 2011 TC Meeting http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201201/msg00002.html minutes approved no objections II. Administrivia RSA InterOp Status update Discussion is ongoing on xacml-demo-tech bitkoo (now "quest software"), boeing, oracle, axiomatics, nextlabs XACML -> LegalRuleML TC - status update wrt xacml TC interest: Link to TC, 1st mtg 19-Jan: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=legalruleml no actions, we will monitor EC-US Profile WD-03 uploaded - discussion thread to be started: Discussion and suggestions in last mtg minutes: follow-up? http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201201/msg00002.html Privacy Preserving Attribute Verification using XACML: prateek: blog entry by Anil John may be of interest to XACML TC http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201201/msg00000.html http://blog.aniltj.org/2011/12/privacy-preserving-attribute.html#disqus_thread Contribution for the XACML Reference list: XACML semantic model EBNF paper plus policy design tool: -> action: update TC main page w ref massimiliano masi: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml-users/201112/msg00003.html rich (comments on contribution): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201201/msg00001.html -> rich: update the link Status of 3.0: jan: what availability of 3.0 impls? hal: a couple companies have released, oracle and others are planning to participate in RSA, but that participation is not associated with any particular product availability; III. Issues New issues: XACML 3.0 higher order bag functions may have significant problems rich (explains concern (possibly there is misunderstanding?)): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201201/msg00004.html Ongoing issues: REST Profile (was: XACML Media Type) ray: concern about REST, JSON, and SOAP over HTTP profiles for WS http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00026.html ray: person wants to keep json/http, simple loosely defined json over http; rest profile will travel over http and also have a json media type over http put xml raw over http (4th profile) danny: looking for easier way to connect to pdp w/o xml overhead; hal: impression is people want to do NO xml processing danny: reqt for client to know xml is an obstacle, so just dropping soap rich: EBNF paper above has a format that might be useful danny: enough to translate xml to json for short term jan: how would it work w non-xml attribute selectors, etc. hal: would need an equivalent mechanism for the new env rich: this is really a "binding vs representation" or "addressing vs content" issue hal: this is an issue that can govern whether xml has to be in the pdp; hal: ray will try to get agreement on the reqts; Intellectual Property Profile IPC Profile WD-06 uploaded - comments/discussion in progress: erik: (includeInResult should be set to false) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00025.html strings vs. URIs (may be related to item discussed at Dec 1 mtg labeled: "Identifier Matching (URI matching)") http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00005.html see comments in last mtg minutes (discussion carried over): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201201/msg00002.html (IPC profile context only) hal: no longer requires uri john: strings may be appropriate paul: where range of values is well known, use strings john: working on draft, use uri's where well established, and strings in more ad hoc areas; hoping to upload draft at end of day paul: within known context no benefit of uri's -> new draft today hopefully (john) OASIS namespace docs (was: XACML Namespace (action from Dec 1 mtg)): -> This issue needs someone to make a specific proposal. paul: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00011.html bill: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00012.html tc-admin: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00013.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00014.html hal/paul: no action right now, but consider http-based naming convention. Issues carried for further discussion: Context Handler (was: XACML and RDF) (discussion about xacml wiki page: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xacml/XACMLandRDF ) several additional comments: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00027.html ... (13 contiguous msgs (Dec 19 - Dec 22)) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00039.html hal: what is status ray: there is proposal ray: current text could be changed paul: fuzzy enough that impl can do what it wants hal: if spec prohibits behavior ray: 3.1 has arrow and number in data flow ray: proposal is msg 39; look at and comment: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00039.html New (combining) algorithm proposal: erik->rich->erik: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201112/msg00020.html hal: hold that over again Hierarchical Actions (further discussion requested by hal in minutes of Dec 1 mtg - no followup discussion yet): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201111/msg00022.html
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