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Subject: Re: [xacml] Groups - xacml-3.0-core-spec-wd-23-en.zip uploaded

[Hal wrote]
I am not sure if we can legally approve the doc without actually making the changes before the vote 

Hal, your memory is accurate: ballot approval motions are supposed to
be made with reference to specifications that actually/tangibly exist,
and which are available for review before the motion to approve is made.

Here's one text explaining the rule, from the TC Handbook


"The motion to approve a WD at CSD level must include
the Working Draft identifier for a resource which has
been published at the time of the motion, including:
title, publication date, and URI. For the Working
Draft URI, please provide a link to a ZIP file 
containing all of the necessary resources, including
the editable source of the Working Draft and any 
related resources such as namespace document drafts,
XML schema files, XML instances, and all files that
are part of the Work Product."

And more prosaic:

"May a TC approve an imaginary/nonexistent WD as CSD/CND?"
Details: Memo sent to Members and Chairs [1]
  OASIS TC Process: Reminders, Clarifications, Updates
  22 Mar 2011 00:52:44 -0000

#2 May a TC approve an imaginary/nonexistent WD as CSD/CND?

The occasional allowance made by TC Admin in the past for
approval of a Working Draft "subject to certain changes..."
is being discontinued, primarily for resourcing reasons.
TC Admin does not have time to verify that ONLY certain
kinds/classes of changes, or changes consistent with a
certain stated goal, or ONLY certain enumerated changes,
have actually been made in a Working Draft that's approved
for CD.  This practice is judged procedurally suspect, and has
created numerous problems due to ambiguity, demonstrable
lack of adherence to limited specified changes, and other

Until further notice, motions to approve a WD as CSD/CND
must be made with reference to an existing, published
Working Draft release -- one that actually exists at the
date/time of the motion, as clarified in the TC Handbook.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Hal Lockhart <hal.lockhart@oracle.com> wrote:

It was my intention to vote wd 23 to CSD & Public Review today. My only concern is the typos (font only) reported by Remon here:




I am not sure if we can legally approve the doc without actually making the changes before the vote.




From: Erik Rissanen [mailto:erik@axiomatics.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:18 AM
To: rich levinson
Cc: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [xacml] Groups - xacml-3.0-core-spec-wd-23-en.zip uploaded


Hi Rich,

Ok, I think I know what the confusion is about. That is the public review draft.


I published wd 22 and I think Bill also did some typo fixing on it before TC admin updated all the front matter and published it for the public review. I took the public review draft as the starting point for wd-23 so the corrections made by TC admin would not be lost. This was just so long time ago, I forgot about it. I have been making small changes to wd-23 over a long time as we have agreed on specific issues. But we did not reach agreement on all issues until recently, so that's why it took so long.

The technical content of the public review draft should be the same as wd-22 since TC admin only updates front matter, but I do not have a redlined diff between wd-22 and the public review draft available. You would have to ask TC admin whether they saved one if you want to see every change since wd-22.

Best regards,

On 2012-04-05 09:47, rich levinson wrote:

Hi Erik,

At last week's mtg I mentioned that wd-23 does not seem to come directly
from wd-22. 

Specifically:     changebars in footer refer to "...csprd03...", dated "08 August 2011",
    as opposed to wd22, which had footer "wd-22" and dated "28 June 2011"

I will refer to this email in agenda.


On 3/22/2012 11:27 AM, Erik Rissanen wrote:

Hi Rich,

The changes are relative to wd 22, which is here:


(Unless I goofed up somehow, but I don't think so.)

Best regards,

On 2012-03-22 16:23, rich levinson wrote:

Hi Erik,

What is the baseline version that the change bars in this version are wrt?

Please provide a link to that version.


On 3/19/2012 12:13 PM, Erik Rissanen wrote:

Submitter's message
Here is an updated draft which I think solves all current open issues. See the document change log and tracked changes for details.
-- Erik Rissanen

Document Name: xacml-3.0-core-spec-wd-23-en.zip

No description provided.
Download Latest Revision
Public Download Link

Submitter: Erik Rissanen
Group: OASIS eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) TC
Folder: Specifications and Working Drafts
Date submitted: 2012-03-19 09:13:28



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