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Subject: Re: [xacml] Question on the ballot request for XACML 3.0
Ok, very good. Thanks very much Erik. I will move forward with the ballot. Again, thanks for writing me to give the background - just a simple communications gap that you / we closed quickly and you can all move forward with your work. I really appreciate it! /chet On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Erik Rissanen <erik@axiomatics.com> wrote: > Chet, > > Yes, the content should be the same as far as I remember. I double checked > by using Word's compare feature, and the only things which it highlighted > were the front matter and TOC changes. So the content is the same. > > Best regards, > Erik > > > > On 2012-08-01 15:46, Chet Ensign wrote: >> >> Erik, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. Yes, the way TC process handles publication >> changed in fall of 2010, before I joined OASIS. Now TC Admin simply >> takes the doc file and the associated schemas and such and TC Admin >> adds the new cover pages, creates the PDF and the HTML and, for >> subsequent reviews, the red-lined DIFF file. All the TC needs to >> provide is the latest draft. >> >> I also just noticed that this is Committee Specification Draft 06 / >> Public Review Draft 04. >> >> So the question to you all is this: is the current csprd04 that went >> out with your last public review >> (http://docs.oasis-open.org/xacml/3.0/xacml-3.0-core-spec-csprd04-en.doc) >> the correct content? In other words, you haven't changed anything >> other than the cover pages... >> >> If it is the correct content, then I will start the ballot and >> reference that csprd as the version the TC is approving for CS. Then, >> once the ballot closes, I will use that version to create the new >> Committee Specification. >> >> Based on what you wrote, I don't think you need to re-approve. I don't >> want to make the TC do extra work if we already have the right content >> in hand. >> >> Best, >> >> /chet >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Erik Rissanen <erik@axiomatics.com> wrote: >>> >>> Chet, >>> >>> What I think has happened is that I have not understood the new TC >>> process. >>> It used to be the case in the past that I, as the editor, would change >>> the >>> front matter and upload the CSD after the vote in the TC on a WD. I have >>> not >>> realized that the process has changed and that now TC Admin prepares the >>> CSD. >>> >>> So what has happened is: >>> >>> - I prepared WD-23 >>> - We voted WD-23 to CSD-06 and public review >>> - I uploaded a CD-06 (mistake) >>> - TC Admin uploaded CSD-06 and CSPRD04 >>> - Public review completes >>> - We vote the wrong copy to CS and Bill requests CS on the wrong copy >>> >>> I suggest that we redo the CS vote on the next call or that you set up a >>> ballot. Not sure which is quicker. >>> >>> BTW, the same thing happened with the combining algorithms profile. >>> >>> These two documents in the archive are bogus, and should probably be >>> removed >>> to avoid confusion in the future. >>> >>> >>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/document.php?document_id=45800 >>> >>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xacml/document.php?document_id=46279 >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Erik >>> >>> >>> On 2012-08-01 03:13, Chet Ensign wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Bill, >>>> >>>> I started work on the ticket for the ballot to approve XACML 3.0 as a >>>> Committee Specification >>>> (https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-1003) but ran into >>>> a problem: the document listed in the ticket is not the document that >>>> went through the last public review. There are two ways we can resolve >>>> this - you all just let me know which you prefer. >>>> >>>> The last public review was in May and was for -csprd04 (see >>>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201205/msg00015.html). >>>> The ticket however references -cd-06 >>>> >>>> >>>> (https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/45800/xacml-3.0-core-spec-cd-06-en.zip >>>> ). That means something has changed since the last public review so I >>>> can't set up a ballot for that file. >>>> >>>> Here are the two approaches we can take: >>>> >>>> 1. I start the ballot for the last public review draft >>>> >>>> (http://docs.oasis-open.org/xacml/3.0/xacml-3.0-core-spec-csprd04-en.doc) >>>> and once the ballot is closed, use it to produce the Committee >>>> Specification. Or... >>>> >>>> 2. The TC wants to approve the draft even though changes have been >>>> made since the last public review - this is in line with the new TC >>>> Process just announced and effective tomorrow. To do that means the TC >>>> asserts that the changes made were non-material. The draft will have >>>> to be approved again following the revised requirements in the TC >>>> Process. I will walk you through the steps for handling this situation >>>> that way. >>>> >>>> Whichever way you all want to go - #1 or #2 - is fine with me, just >>>> let me know. If it will help, I will be happy to get on the phone with >>>> you and walk through the options and the steps going forward. Just let >>>> me know. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> /chet >>>> ---------------- >>>> Chet Ensign >>>> Director of Standards Development and TC Administration >>>> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >>>> http://www.oasis-open.org >>>> >>>> Primary: +1 973-996-2298 >>>> Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 >>>> >>>> TC Administration information and support is available at >>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin >>>> >>>> Follow OASIS on: >>>> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen >>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org >>>> >> >> > -- /chet ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open
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