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Subject: Re: [xcbf] Current Ballot

I am afraid these remarks may sound anti-American.  They are not 
intended to be.  They are simply comments from someone working on 
international and open standards, rather than on closed US-only standards.

X9.84 is a closed US-only standard (I will refrain from making nasty 
remarks about who rules the world - whoops, I said it!) and I do not 
have access to it.

OASIS is, at least nominally, a world-wide, open, public consortium, 
although it is dominated by the US - but so are many *ISO* committees!.

I therefore have two questions:

	a)	Is the text of X9.84 identical (in all respects, or not) to the 
proposed text of the OASIS XCBF?  (I actually do not know.)

	b)	And second, surely OASIS provides an international standard 
(lower-case "i" and "s") where ANSI X9 **does not**, and hence an OASIS 
Standard is worth proceeding with?  (I am aware that there are moves to 
try to standardise X9.84 in IOS/IEC/JTC1/SC27, but that standardisation 
will be a long way off.)

John L

Phillip H. Griffin wrote:
> Just to clear things up for all members, especially for those
> of you who voted long ago on this item, the current issue
> under ballot is the following:
> So far I have four votes to accept this motion, and Ed's vote
> just now, which I believe is to reject this motion. No other
> members cast a vote.
> So the motion to accept the proposed public review comment
> revisions has failed to pass ballot. And our original CS document
> stands - though it is now no longer in synch with X9.84:2003, as
> all of the proposed revisions were accepted and incorporated
> into that work.
> I'd be interested in any suggestions as to how the group would
> like to move forward. Should we consider our work completed
> with publication of our initial CS?
> Does anything more remain to be done?
> Phil
> Phillip H. Griffin wrote:
>>> Attached with revision bars showing are all changes made as a
>>> result of the public comment review.
>>> Please take a look at these changes and send a note to the list
>>> if you accept these as our new Committee Specification 1.0 as
>>> soon as possible.
>>> Upon acceptance, I will try to move the process forward and
>>> have our work considered by OASIS as an OASIS Standard.
>>> Phil

    Prof John Larmouth
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