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Subject: Re: [xcbf] Ways forward

I also prefer Option 2. I agree that Option 1 is a fall-back position.
If the majority of us prefers Option 3, we need to know the planned
availability date of the Extended XER standard. If it is too far out, it
would delay our work too much.

Best regards,
Tyky Aichelen
Program Director
IBM Systems Group

                      John Larmouth                                                                                             
                      <j.larmouth@salfo        To:       Ed Day <eday@obj-sys.com>                                              
                      rd.ac.uk>                cc:       xcbf <xcbf@lists.oasis-open.org>                                       
                                               Subject:  Re: [xcbf] Ways forward                                                
                      04/25/2003 05:51                                                                                          
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I really appreciate you being flexible on the three options.

I think we are heading for your option 2 at the moment.

If that hits problems in getting consensus, we can look at your other
options.  Phil will be very unhappy if we use option 3, I think, but
option 1 is clearly a fall-back position.

At the teleconference, no-one actually said they wanted option 2, except
that both Bancroft and myself spoke on behalf of Phil (who had left)
saying that we felt he would strongly prefer option 2 of the three options.

Of course, we may have mis-represented Phil!.

But for now, I think my brief (as a possible Editor-to-be-approved) is
to work with your option 2.

**** But I am not sure we need an Annex  ****

We are talking about a couple of paragraphs of text only, I think.  (As
Bancroft said, this thing *is* a nit.)  And it can probably go into the
mnain body.

*** But you can judge what you want when I produce some text. ***

Currently, I am planning a small clause in the main document, with a
footnote (as suggested by John Messing) saying that this anticipates a
future Standard.

*** I will look to John M to review the proposed text on that when I
have produced it. ***

But if, when you see the text, you would prefer it to be moved to a
(normative) Annex rather than being normative text, I have absolutely no
objection at all.

I am up to my ears with an ASN.1 meeting trying to meet deadlines to
progress this EXTENDED-XER stuff, but this OASIS work is important, and
I will try to get a draft out to the group by Monday, and you-all can
then decide whether you are happy with the approach and the text.

John L

Ed Day wrote:
> As mentioned on the phone conference, I would provide an E-mail
> indicating what I believe are acceptable ways forward on the current
> state of the XCBF document.  All of these are acceptable alternatives:
> 1. Change the base64 encoding to hex to provide full compliance with XER
> as it stands today,
> 2. Indicate in the text that the encodings are XER compilant with minor
> deviations, namely the use of base64 in certain fields.  Indicate in an
> Appendix the current plans for the future XER standard with guidelines
> as to what is going to be provided so that implementors can plan to make
> changes to their products to be compilant with the new standard.  Only
> the part of the new XER standard that affects the XCBF standard needs to
> be disclosed.
> 3. Delay the XCBF standard until the EXTENDED-XER standard is available
> and can be referenced.
> Regards,
> Ed Day
> Objective Systems, Inc.
> Tel: +1 (484) 875-9841
> Fax: +1 (484) 875-9830
> Toll-free: (877) 307-6855 (USA only)
> mailto:eday@obj-sys.com
> http://www.obj-sys.com

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