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Subject: FW: More info on the UDEF - semantic equivalency mechanism
FYI - this message explains more about how UDEF approaches semantic
equivalency.
=Drummond
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Date: 05/10/2004 03:21
Subject: RE: [udef.builders] [Fwd: Information on the UDEF - semantic
equivalencymechan
Mark,
I agree with your comments. In the vein of providing ease-of-use with
powerful features, in order to accomplish sophisticated interaction and
collaboration, I am tracking the Intelligent Agent domain. This is where I
think the concept of the 'personal butler' who will do all our bidding maps
against the Semantic Web:
I wake up in the morning and tell my personal butler (named, of course,
Winthorpe) that I need a dental appointment for a specific procedure, and
please find the best price with immediate availability on those killer
Cambridge Soundworks sub/satellite speakers.... It has all my info,
including credit, shipping, medical history, insurance, schedule, etc.
(encrypted ala Liberty Alliance standards from the future, hopefully ) and
goes it's merry way, pinging first the registry to discover services based
on the requirements and attributes.
It then will use web services based semantic web interactions to query,
negotiate and finalize agreement upon whatever it has been told to do....
but wait....
How does the dental office's appointment service know that my intelligent
agent's data element for "InsurancePrimaryPolicyHolder" is the same as it's
data element requested for the field "PatientInsurerNumber"??? I'll tell
you - through the semantic resolver services driven by ubiquitous,
always-on, open standards based UDEF architecture and registry....
The need for semantic stuff is HUGE, as a matter of fact the next
generation of the web will never get off the ground without it, because a
human will be required to map so many of the interactions, that it will be
impossible to get anything done with out an analyst and mapping coder.....
Even the ontologies are domain specific.... right? at least mostly....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John C. Hardin
Chief Architect, ebXML
Application Architecture and Integration
ASD
313.737.1197 cell
313.667.4849 desk
john.hardin@gm.com
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<chiusano_joseph@bah.com>, David RR Webber - XML ebusiness
<Gnosis_@compuserve.com>
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Hmmmph. Looks like I've been pre-empted.... ; >
Actually, David and I have been interacting through the udef.builders
group, and David has sent me a preliminary version of the actual code....
I believe that in addition to the comments below (which I am in
whole-hearted agreement with) that there is potentially an opportunity to
assist in ontology/taxonomy loading, for use on an enterprise (private) or
internet (public)
Theoretically, the taxonomy/ontology/eBusiness schema formats would have
taken the time to add UDEF ID attributes into thier formats, thereby making
them ready for "semantic equivalency resolvers". When loaded into a CAM
mechanism, this MAY be able to draw some conclusions about linkages between
competing formats...
Which is the objective for the whole thing anyway.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
john c hardin
director / founder - sangha interactive
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness <Gnosis_@compuserve.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:24:32 -0400
>Joe,
>
>Not wanting to pre-empt John's reply - as I'm sure he has
>further requirements / insights - from the CAM side here's
>the thumbnail sketch I have.
>
>#1 - CAM provides the <ContentReference> mechanism,
> whereby schema elements and attributes can be
> directly associated to UDEF definitions using the
> UDEF ID as the reference in the UID field.
>
>#2 - From #1 - in reverse - you can have assemblies
> that build schemas from UDEF dictionaries.
>
>#3 - Add the noun semantics registry work with SCM -
> and now you can automate your semantic
> definitions - by retrieving them automagically
> with the CAM processor - and validate
> to them.
>
>#4 - Cross-walks between UDEF and other - again
> driven by content references system.
>
>#5 - Registry + SCM + CAM - ability to discover
> and manage UDEF definitions stored in Registry.
>
>Of course - since we don't have all this working yet -
>your mileage may vary - but at least we have
>solid technical underpinning here - IMHO all we
>need now is to execute on a live project...
>
>Thanks, DW
>
>Message text written by "Chiusano Joseph"
>>
>Hi John,
>
>I'm interested in finding out if/how UDEF works with OASIS CAM. Would
>you happen to have any insight to provide?
>
>Thanks so much!
>Joe Chiusano
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>
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