RE: [xdi] RE: [External] [xdi] Minutes: XDI TC Telecon Friday 2012-06-15

["Barnhill, William [USA]" <barnhill_william@bah.com>]

Ok, I have no problem with that. I will call in now.


Kind regards,
 
Bill Barnhill
Booz Allen Hamilton - Belcamp,MD
1-443-924-0824| barnhill_william@bah.com
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: xdi@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf
> Of Michael Schwartz
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:03 PM
> To: OASIS - XDI TC
> Subject: Re: [xdi] RE: [External] [xdi] Minutes: XDI TC Telecon Friday 2012-06-
> 15
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> 
> Bill
> 
> I started the meeting. I'd like to vote on the HTTP Binding this week.
> Drummond has already indicated that he wants us to work this out, and he
> can approve subsequently, and we have a proposal in front of us that we are
> ready to discuss. Also, there is plenty to discuss.
> 
> thx,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Barnhill, William [USA] wrote:
> 
> > Drummond is not able to attend this call and I do not have an agenda
> prepared.  Suggest we scratch this week's call and meet again next week.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Bill Barnhill
> > Booz Allen Hamilton - Belcamp,MD
> > 1-443-924-0824| barnhill_william@bah.com<mailto:barnhill_william@bah.c
> > 1-443-924-0824| om>
> >
> >
> > From: xdi@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org] On
> > Behalf Of Drummond Reed
> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:09 PM
> > To: OASIS - XDI TC
> > Subject: [External] [xdi] Minutes: XDI TC Telecon Friday 2012-06-15
> >
> > Following are the minutes of the unofficial telecon of the XDI TC at:
> >
> > Date:  Friday, 15 June 2012 USA
> > Time:  9:00AM - 10:30AM Pacific Time (16:00-17:30 UTC)
> >
> > THE ETHERPAD LINK FOR TODAY IS:
> >     http://piratepad.ca/7oNVpyaRJ5
> >
> >
> > ***** PRESENTATIONS *****
> >
> > --- ALICE AND BOB INTRODUCE XDI SLIDES
> >
> > Drummond gave a new presentation he has developed that shows most of
> the core constructs of the XDI graph model in a very simple Alice and Bob
> scenario.
> >
> >
> > ***** NEWS & UPDATES *****
> >
> > --- DRUMMOND LONDON TRIP REPORT
> >
> > On Monday Drummond gave the Alice and Bob presentation on XDI at the
> Identity Day Forum at London's Innovation Warehouse.
> >
> > Yesterday Drummond co-lead the Tech track at the World Economic Forum
> Rethinking Personal Data Tiger Team meeting in London. The focus of the
> discussion was PDRL (Personal Data Rights Language). The conclusion of the
> group was that PDRL should be implemented as an XDI dictionary of terms
> that are used for link contracts governing the exchange of personal data. This
> takes advantage of three key features of XDI:
> > *         Link contracts - the binding of data to permissions
> > *         Contexts -- PDRL needs to be able to describe permissions that are
> context-specific
> > *         Extensibility -- Data types that can be covered by PDRL can be easily
> extended
> >
> > --- ODATA
> >
> > Giovanni and Mike brought up the new OASIS OData TC. Mike has joined it.
> >
> > Mike compared OData to a subset of XDI where it is just focused on
> standardizing REST architecture for data exchange.
> >
> > Giovanni said he had a concern about OASIS having two Technical
> Committees that are covering closely related areas. This could be confusing
> to developers, and to OASIS members.
> >
> > A second concern is naming - in Giovanni's brief review of the OData spec,
> relative names are used for properties instead of URIs, so there can be
> naming conflicts, which has been addressed in XDI. - He has specifically
> addressed this topic in a poster presented at ESWC 2011 (https://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/download.php/41948/bartolomeo-
> Named%20Graphs,%20Named%20Nodes,%20Named%20Links%20%28camer
> a%20ready%29.pdf).
> >
> > So Giovanni thinks we have an opportunity to establish a liaison between
> the two TCs. He believes we should go for a true integration, not just
> members joining each TC.
> >
> >
> > ***** DECISION POINT QUEUE REVIEW *****
> >
> > --- PROCESS DISCUSSION
> >
> > We still need to complete the prioritization of proposals on the wiki.
> Drummond has added a page to track issues that do not have full proposal
> pages yet:
> >
> >  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiPendingIssues
> >
> > We agreed that we need to categorize proposals by spec in order to help
> determine priority. The category names will be:
> > *         CategoryProposalGraphModel
> > *         CategoryProposalSerialization
> > *         CategoryProposalMessaging
> > *         CategoryProposalDictionary
> > *         CategoryProposalDiscovery
> > *         CategoryProposalLinkContracts
> > *         CategoryProposalQueries
> >
> > # DRUMMOND, MIKE to reorganize proposal pages to put them in these
> categoreis and clean up the home page to just have links to the categories.
> >
> > --- PRIORITIZATION
> >
> > Mike proposed that the TC group the latest proposals, and  move them
> > to the top of the list. His proposed prioritization is: (1) Graph
> > Model; (2) Serialization (JSON)  (3) Messaging (API); (4) Link
> > Contracts (5) Discovery (6) Query (7) Dictionary
> >
> > --- XDI GRAPH MODEL
> >
> > Mike suggested and Drummond agreed we should extract any formal
> sections of The XDI Graph Model document and turn them into proposals.
> This would include the ABNF and the notation format.
> >
> > --- SERIALIZATION
> >
> > We agreed that the issues regarding serialization and data encoding must
> be prioritized.
> >
> > # MIKE to publish a proposal on use of the data URI format to specify literal
> type.
> >
> > --- XDI MESSAGING
> >
> > Drummond poiinted out that multiplicity is a question that needs to be
> addressed for XDI messaging.
> >
> >
> > ***** DECISION POINT FOR THIS CALL *****
> >
> > We decided not to try to make a specific decision on this call. Instead we
> spent the time going over and categorizing the current proposals and
> pending issues, and discussing how best to proceed. The key points:
> > *         We should prepare and send email about proposal pages well in
> advance of each call.
> > *         TC members should review them in advance of the call so that the call
> can focus just on the technical questions, merits, tradeoffs, etc. necessary to
> reach a decison.
> >
> >
> > ***** NEXT CALL *****
> >
> > The next call is next week at the regular time. Drummond will not be able
> to attend as he will be flying home from London that day.
> >
> >
> 
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