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Subject: RE: [External] [xdi] Minutes: XDI TC Telecon Friday 2012-11-09
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To clarify on my previous email, regarding these use cases: Markus explained that there are actually 3 different use cases from the client perspective:
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Requesting that the server follow $is statements and return them in the response ("transparent" or "expanded" responses)
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Requesting that the server follow $is statements but not return them in the response ("opaque" or "compressed" responses)
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Requesting that the server not process any $is statements ("no-follow" responses) I support making the transparent/expanded as the only use case by adding a second verb $id. $id maps an i-name to a i-number. The subject is the same type
as the subject of $is, but the object, an i-number, is not a specialization of an i-name. Therefore I don’t think we should use an extension of $is for this, but should use a second verb. This does mean that there are two sets of properties. One is on the i-name which is specific to the persona associated with that i-name. The other is on the
i-number that i-name maps to, and is common across all the personas associated with that entity. Since they are two different verbs a link contract can easily control access differently, but does not have to. Kind regards, Bill Barnhill Booz Allen Hamilton - Belcamp,MD Cell: 1-443-924-0824
Desk: 1-443-861-9102 From: xdi@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xdi@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Drummond Reed Following are the minutes of the unofficial telecon of the XDI TC at: Date: Friday, 09 November 2012 USA Time: 9:00AM - 10:30AM Pacific Time (16:00-17:30 UTC) THE WEBEX INSTRUCTIONS FOR TODAY ARE: ATTENDING Bill Barnhill Phil Windley Joseph Boyle Markus Sabadello Drummond Reed GUESTS Animesh Chowdhury THE ETHERPAD LINK FOR TODAY IS: ***** NEWS & UPDATES ***** --- INTERNET IDENTITY WORKSHOP AND SIBOS REPORT * Markus did a screencast of his XDI personal cloud desktop demo. It is available at https://github.com/peacekeeper/xdi2 * Phil did a screencast of the KRL personal cloud desktop and an in-depth session on KRL/XDI integration
featuring the KRL XDI module developed by Mark Horstmeier * Markus suggested that we should do more focused screencasts * Drummond talked about the Forever cloud address book mobile app prototype that he presented at Sibos. --- XDI IMPLEMENTERS CALL Markus shared that he and the Neustar team has set up a weekly open telecon for XDI implementers.
It will be Tuesday at 11AM PT/2PM PT. He sent info to the list: We also discussed the need to keep all XDI spec issues in the province of the XDI TC. ***** DECISION POINTS FOR THIS CALL ***** --- $IS RESOLUTION We discussed the $is and $xis proposal that Drummond and Markus raised on the list as defining two
different forms of equivalence statements in the graph, one that is transparent and one that is opaque. Phil brought up the point that it would be better to extend the $is predicate rather than have two
predicates. Drummond strongly agreed with this suggestion. Markus explained that there are actually 3 different use cases from the client perspective:
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Requesting that the server follow $is statements and return them in the response ("transparent" or "expanded" responses)
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Requesting that the server follow $is statements but not return them in the response ("opaque" or "compressed" responses)
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Requesting that the server not process any $is statements ("no-follow" responses) Markus preferred the terms "public" and "private" instead of "transparent" and "opaque". ***** DECISION POINT QUEUE REVIEW ***** The decision queue stack is now shown on the following three auto-generated Category pages: See also this list of proposals that need to be developed: We agreed that we need to resolve the $is resolution issue first, then we will move back to the Messaging
proposal. ***** NEXT CALL ***** The next call is next week at the regular time. |
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