Re: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Friday 09:00 - 10:30AM PT 2013-03-14

[Markus Sabadello <markus.sabadello@xdi.org>]

Drummond, I will probably be around half an hour late..

Made an appointment a while ago, not taking into account US daylight savings time change..

Markus

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@xdi.org> wrote:

XDI TC Agenda

Following is the agenda for the unofficial telecon of the XDI TC at:
Date:  Friday, 15 March 2013 USA
Time:  09:00AM - 10:30AM Pacific Time (17:00-18:30 UTC)

THE LINK TO THIS AGENDA AND LIVE MEETING MINUTES IS:
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AGENDA

NEWS & UPDATES

NONE SCHEDULED

Discuss whether we want to participate in this event next February.

PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS

SERIALIZATION FORMATS DISCUSSION

Markus has come up with a use case and analysis for a second serialization parameter, which also suggests why we need a new name for the first one.
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/SerializationFormats/Discussion

SPEC DRAFTING MECHANICS DISCUSSION

We need to start more detailed planning around the specific process by which we will start the official spec drafting process.

DECISION POINTS FOR THIS CALL

This week's decision queue is the following set of proposals:

ABNF UPDATES (DRUMMOND, MARKUS, JOSEPH)

This has been the subject of much work over the past week.

  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiAbnf
  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiAbnf/Discussion

In particular, a new proposal called the "single delimiter level proposal" has been developed. After last week's discussion about a dedicated UUID syntax, Markus and Joseph and I had subsequent discussions about the role of delimiters in the ABNF.

We realized the longstanding assumption that we needed a "global" and "local" level of identifiers -- and thus different combinations of global and local delimiters to express different semantics -- was actually causing more complexity and confusion than it solved (as anyone who has tried to memorize our current multiplicity syntax knows).

So we had a simple idea: what if we eliminated the two levels of delimiters and just went down to a single level in which each delimiter had exactly one semantic meaning and none are overloaded with multiple meanings in different contexts?

What this would require, of course, is introducing a few new delimiters -- four, to be precise (to represent the four multiplicity options besides entity singletons, which are the default and require no special syntax).

But once we worked out what those four should be, the result is simpler and more regular than the double-delimiter+cross-reference rules we currently have in the ABNF. Every subsegment/subgraph in an XDI address is either:

1. delimiter + literal string
2. delimiter + cross-reference (which repeats the pattern)

MESSAGE PARAMETERS (MARKUS & DRUMMOND)

We will review the updated XDI Message Patterns proposal page including the Parameters pattern section.
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiMessagePatterns

PROXY DISCOVERY (DRUMMOND & MARKUS)

The Discovery proposal now includes simple rules for proxy discovery:
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiDiscovery

XDI POLICY _expression_ (ANIMESH)

We are ready to discuss next steps with this proposal.
  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiPolicyExpression

DECISION POINT QUEUE REVIEW

The decision queue stack is shown on the following three auto-generated Category pages:

  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/CategoryLastCall
  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/CategoryCurrent
  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/CategoryHighPriority

See also this list of proposals that need to be developed:

  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiPendingIssues

NEXT CALL

The next call is next week at the regular time.