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Subject: Re: [xliff-comment] csprd02 - localization notes


Yves, all, 

this is now tracked as
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/XLIFF-35

TC members should discuss this within the JIRA issue.

Non-members can chime in at
http://markmail.org/thread/tjnzclkiomfcers2

Cheers
dF

Dr. David Filip
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Yves <yves@opentag.com> wrote:
The ITS Localization Note data category in section: 5.9.7.1 Localization Note.
There are various issues IMO with it:


-- Wrong category?

That is in the set of data categories "that have a partial overlap with XLIFF features", but there is no ITSM elements or attribute
defined. So what is the 'partial overlap'? If that data category can be mapped using only ITS rules and XLIFF elements/attributes it
should be in the category " ITS data categories available through XLIFF Core and other Modules". If that is not the case then it
should be in the category "ITS data categories not represented in XLIFF"


-- Warning for for <sm>:

The second paragraph of the warning the the section says:

"While XLIFF Core <note> elements apply to the whole content of the structural element where it was placed in the business sense, it
doesn't technically inherit in the XML sense. The scopes of the Comment Annotation mechanism will differ where the unextended ITS
Processors cannot identify pseudo-spans formed by <sm/> / <em/> pairs, the scope will be the same on the well-formed <mrk> spans.
The content and type of the Localization Note will be always mapped properly."

Why this specific warning. It's no different than for all ITS data categories. But the other data categories don't have a specific
warning.

The term "unextended ITS processor" is very confusing: We should not assume anything about extension of ITS processors.

The term "in the business sense" is also very weird.

IMO: There should be one general note about the issue of the <sm> scope that explains the problem and states the limitation of the
ITS processor with that element (with any data category).


-- The scope problem of XLIFF <note>:

The scope <note> and the one for ITS Localization Note are different. In XLIFF <note> applies to either to source or target (and--I
assume--to everything if appliesTo is not defined (the default)).
For IT'S THE note applies to the textual content of the element, including child elements, but excluding attributes.
So essentially kind of the same as when appliesTo is not defined.

Unless there is a way to have a ITS rules that manage to handle the appliesTo='source' and appliesTo='target' we don't have a
semantics equivalence.


-- ITS rule in http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.1/csprd02/schemas/its.sch

Currently we have:

<its:locNoteRule selector="//xlf:note" localizationNotePointer="self::*" locNoteType="description"/>

But that doesn't take XLIFF priority into account, nor appliesTo.




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