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Subject: Modified: 2nd Tuesday - Regular XLIFF OMOS TC telecenference (Conference Call)


Submitter's message
added short minutes from 13th JUne
-- Dr. David Filip
Event Title: 2nd Tuesday - Regular XLIFF OMOS TC telecenference (Conference Call)

Date: Tuesday, 13 June 2017, 05:00pm to 06:00pm WEST
Location: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3822
Description

See the private action item for dial in details

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3822


This meeting counts towards voter eligibility.

Agenda

A. Admin

1- Roll call

7 Voters

 

2- Minutes from the last quorum meeting May 23rd 2017

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/email/archives/201706/msg00005.html

 

B. Material

1- XLIFF OM

(https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-om)

check the wiki mapping

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-om/wiki

talk white-space handling in LIOM

 

2- JLIFF

(https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-jliff)

 

Some recent lisit discussions

JLIFF and Metadata http://markmail.org/thread/i6byfzjtltht7f2o

Modules and extensions http://markmail.org/thread/7472od6zqdmhnvmy

JLIFF notes (unit and above) http://markmail.org/thread/262esaw6imeq52q2

JLIFF for CTR module http://markmail.org/thread/bdoszbxezthavfec

 

- Continue discussion on qualified names

Possible prefixes? 

underscore "_" 

colon ":"

dolar sign "$"

 

- Look at JSON-LD? Use of context, no namespaces, but a way to shorten IRIsdF: We'd need to look into a prefix registration mechanism preferably indepnedent on the XLLIFF TC SVN? 

 

- Using XLIFF 2 test suite to test JLIFF expressivity

wait for XLIFF 2.1 test suite

 

 

3- TBX Mapping

Report from editorial 1-2-1 meeting [skipping until TC 37 meetings in Vienna late June]

current editor's draft: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff-omos/trunk/XLIFF-TBX/xliff-tbx-v1.0.pdf

C. Other Topics

Where to place work on extraction reference guides? Seems industry want that..

2- Liaisons

GALA TAPICC https://www.gala-global.org/tapicc-translation-api-class-and-cases-initiative

TAPICC does not require GALA Membership. OMOS object model is linked to 2nd and 3rd tracks of TAPICC.

TBX Steering Committee / ISO TC37/SC3 - preparation for June meeting in Vienna / Call for XML experts

Possible TBX modernization

XLIFF TC - 4th public review started on 5th June

https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-xliff-v2-1-ends-june-20th

http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.1/csprd04/xliff-core-v2.1-csprd04.html

 

3- Promotion

8th XLIFF Symposium CFP is out

https://twitter.com/merzbauer/status/864491889659183105

spread the word

The main conference is Nov 1-Nov 3, FEISGILTT will be held on Oct 31-Nov 1, 2017. Save the dates. Submit a paper, recruit speakers, volunteer for the PCs.

4- AOB

1- Date of next meeting

Doodle for the summer published

https://doodle.com/poll/grchwua93254m49g

Please fill it out

2- Looking for a new secretary. Contact dF.

 


Minutes

A. Admin

1- Roll call

8 Voters, quorum achived

 

2- Minutes from the last quorum meeting May 23rd 2017

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/email/archives/201706/msg00005.html

Approved by consensus

B. Material

1- XLIFF OM

(https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-om)

check the wiki mapping

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-om/wiki

JLIFF unlike XLIFF has the capability to represent fragments at different logical levels -> need for a wrapper object in JLIFF at the top level

 

2- JLIFF

(https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-jliff)

Following the OM discussion and the JLIFF capability to represent fragments from different logical levels

Consensus: JLIFF objects and arrays will be always wrapped with a top level object (thus necessarily nameless) indicating jliff version and other global properties of the fragment. 

Some recent lisit discussions

JLIFF and Metadata http://markmail.org/thread/i6byfzjtltht7f2o

Modules and extensions http://markmail.org/thread/7472od6zqdmhnvmy

JLIFF notes (unit and above) http://markmail.org/thread/262esaw6imeq52q2

JLIFF for CTR module http://markmail.org/thread/bdoszbxezthavfec

 

- Continue discussion on qualified names

Possible prefixes? 

underscore "_" 

colon ":"

dolar sign "$"

 

- Look at JSON-LD? Use of context, no namespaces, but a way to shorten IRIs

dF: We'd need to look into a prefix registration mechanism preferably indepnedent on the XLLIFF TC SVN? 

The group consenus seems tending to identification of context for modules and registered extensions.

dF: We can control via the registration mechanism that the first _ or : or $ or whatver the consenus is the separator of the qualifier.

Note that this leads to top level "pseudoobject" defining that context that JSON theorists don't seem to like. But we need that the capture the logical top level anyways.

Yves: Extensions wouldn't have predefined contenxt so would have to use fully qualified names.

dF: Doesn't seem too bad, that would be an incentive for extension owners to register

 

 

- Using XLIFF 2 test suite to test JLIFF expressivity

wait for XLIFF 2.1 test suite

 

 

3- TBX Mapping

Report from editorial 1-2-1 meeting [skipping until TC 37 meetings in Vienna late June]

current editor's draft: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff-omos/trunk/XLIFF-TBX/xliff-tbx-v1.0.pdf

James: there is a big discussion about using namespaces in TBX, there will be some structural changes we need to wait for after Vienna

 

C. Other Topics

Where to place work on extraction reference guides? Seems industry want that..

dF: I proposed that as TAPICC track

2- Liaisons

GALA TAPICC https://www.gala-global.org/tapicc-translation-api-class-and-cases-initiative

TAPICC does not require GALA Membership. OMOS object model is linked to 2nd and 3rd tracks of TAPICC.

TBX Steering Committee / ISO TC37/SC3 - preparation for June meeting in Vienna / Call for XML experts

Possible TBX modernization

XLIFF TC - 4th public review started on 5th June

https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-xliff-v2-1-ends-june-20th

http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.1/csprd04/xliff-core-v2.1-csprd04.html

dF: Feel free to comment

3- Promotion

8th XLIFF Symposium CFP is out

https://twitter.com/merzbauer/status/864491889659183105

spread the word

The main conference is Nov 1-Nov 3, FEISGILTT will be held on Oct 31-Nov 1, 2017. Save the dates. Submit a paper, recruit speakers, volunteer for the PCs.

4- AOB

1- Date of next meeting

Doodle for the summer published

https://doodle.com/poll/grchwua93254m49g

dF: Please fill it out so that we can decide on our summer schedule

2- Looking for a new secretary. Contact dF.



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