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Subject: Modified: 4th Tuesday - Regular XLIFF OMOS TC telecenference


Submitter's message
recorded attendance and scribe
-- Dr. David Filip
Event Title: 4th Tuesday - Regular XLIFF OMOS TC telecenference

Date: Tuesday, 25 July 2017, 05:00pm to 06:00pm WEST
Location: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3822
Description

See the private action item for dial in details

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3822


This meeting counts towards voter eligibility.

Agenda

A. Admin

1- Roll call

8 Voters total

 

2- Minutes from the last quorum meeting June 13th  2017

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-omos/email/archives/201707/msg00002.html

 

B. Material

1- XLIFF OM

(https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-om)

check the wiki mapping

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-om/wiki

JLIFF unlike XLIFF has the capability to represent fragments at different logical levels -> need for a wrapper object in JLIFF at the top level

- what has to be on the logical root level?

list: srcLang / trgLang ...srcDir / trgDir .. whitespace handling (how?) more?

 

2- JLIFF

(https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-omos-jliff)

Following the OM discussion and the JLIFF capability to represent fragments from different logical levels

Consensus: JLIFF objects and arrays will be always wrapped with a top level object (thus necessarily nameless) indicating jliff version and other global properties of the fragment. 

What can be inside / what is valid JLIFF content? :

files   --- the top level object corresponds to XLIFF

groups | units --- the top level object corresponds to file

subunits --- the top level object corresponds to file

Issue: if content is units what's the corresponding XLIFF level? Could be group and could be file. This has potential to break roundtrip..

- what has to be on the wrapper level? 

list: JLIFF version srcLang / trgLang ...srcDir / trgDir more?

- Continue discussion on qualified names

Possible prefixes? 

underscore "_" 

colon ":"

dolar sign "$"

 

- Look at JSON-LD? Use of context, no namespaces, but a way to shorten IRIs

Need to look into a prefix registration mechanism preferably indepnedent on the XLLIFF TC SVN? 

The group consenus seems tending to identification of context for modules and registered extensions.

We can control via the registration mechanism that the first _ or : or $ or whatver the consenus is the separator of the qualifier.

Note that this leads to top level "pseudoobject" defining that context that JSON theorists don't seem to like. But we need that the capture the logical top level anyways.

 

 

- Using XLIFF 2 test suite to test JLIFF expressivity

wait for XLIFF 2.1 test suite

Soroush? status?

 

3- TBX Mapping

Report from editorial 1-2-1 meeting [skipping until TC 37 meetings in Vienna late June]

current editor's draft: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff-omos/trunk/XLIFF-TBX/xliff-tbx-v1.0.pdf

Vienna aftermath report (dF/James)

 

C- Otherr Topics

2- Liaisons

Where to place work on extraction reference guides? Seems industry want that..

Proposed that as TAPICC track inside Strand 1 Supply Chain Automation

GALA TAPICC https://www.gala-global.org/tapicc-translation-api-class-and-cases-initiative

TAPICC does not require GALA Membership. OMOS object model is linked to 2nd and 3rd tracks of TAPICC.

TBX Steering Committee / ISO TC37/SC3 - preparation for June meeting in Vienna / Call for XML experts

Possible TBX modernization

XLIFF TC - 4th public review started on 5th June

https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-xliff-v2-1-ends-june-20th

http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.1/csprd04/xliff-core-v2.1-csprd04.html

Work on cs01 underay, possibly csprd05

3- Promotion

8th XLIFF Symposium CFP has been extended

http://bit.ly/XOMOSAn

spread the word, consider speaking

The main conference is Nov 1-Nov 3, FEISGILTT will be held on Oct 31-Nov 1, 2017. Save the dates. Submit a paper, recruit speakers, volunteer for the PCs.

4- AOB

1- Date of next meeting

Doodle for the summer closed

https://doodle.com/poll/grchwua93254m49g

The rest of this summer seems fine.

Need another chair person for  Sep 12, as dF will be on JTC1 SC38 plenary

2- Looking for a new secretary. Contact dF


Minutes

Phil was the note taker, will post his meeting minutes shortly



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Group: OASIS XLIFF Object Model and Other Serializations (XLIFF OMOS) TC
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