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Subject: Re: [xliff-seg] Pro/Cons on xml:tm methods

Hi Yves,

Thank you for your comments and pointing out the practical issues involved 
concerning paired tags and sub-flows. <tm:tu> elements cannot split xml 
elements. In the instance where an end of a sentence is contained within a mixed 
content element the overriding rule is that of XML integrity. Sub-flows can be 
handled in one of two ways:

1) The sub-flow remains within its parent <tm:tu>.
2) The sub-flow can be separated out into a new trans-unit with a marker 
inserted to allow for the correct placement on merging.

Sub-flows are not normally a problem as they have been handled in the initial 
extraction into XLIFF.

Best Regards,


Yves Savourel wrote:
> Hi all,
> My action item for tomorrow's meeting was to look at the pros and cons of
> using the method Andrzej proposed a while ago.
> The original proposal can be found here:
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-seg/200403/msg00015.html
> The xml:tm specification can be found here:
> http://www.xml-intl.com/docs/specification/xml-tm.html
> An article on xml:tm can be found here:
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/01/07/xmltm.html
> Pros:
> Introducing additional element is cleaner that re-purposing some of the
> existing XLIFF element since we don't have to change the meaning of existing
> XLIFF elements.
> Using a separate namespace is good because it allows the namespace to evolve
> separately from XLIFF and can be changed without changing XLIFF. Although
> this could be seen as an issue in some cases (which version of xml:tm is
> supported with which version of XLIFF, etc.)
> The mechanism can be directly mapped in other XML formats if necessary,
> allowing to preserve seamlessly the segments outside of XLIFF.
> Cons:
> - Introducing extension inside <source> and <target> should be looked at
> very carefully. If it is to be adopted it should be done along with strict
> guidelines on how tools should deal with the extensions, how they should
> treat their content, etc.
> - Using xml:tm does not (as far as can see) solve the issue of how to deal
> with paired tags that become isolated once the segmentation. While in using
> xml:tm in a normal document this is probably resolved by closing and opening
> inline element when needed, that solution may not be viable for XLIFF where
> we need to merge. As Magnus pointed out, this problem is going to be an
> issue is just about any segmentation representation.
> Another problem is how to treat sub-flow. For example how a XLIFF <sub>
> element would be treated. I don't think that the current xml:tm
> specification allows for a <tm:tu> to embed another <tm:tu>. This could
> probably worked out.
> That's all the notes I have for now.
> Cheers,
> -yves


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