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Subject: RE: [xliff] Minutes of the XLIFF TC August 6th. 2002

Hi Mark,
My understanding is that was discussed but not proposed or agreed.
Tony/ Yves,
Could you confirm which version of this is the correct one.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Levins [mailto:mark_levins@ie.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Peter Reynolds <Peter.Reynolds
Cc: 'xliff@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: Re: [xliff] Minutes of the XLIFF TC August 6th. 2002

Hi Peter,

I had thought we agreed to remove the 'Naming Convention' section from the specification altogether. If I have got this wrong I would like to formally propose removing it from the specification on the basis that it constitutes a TC policy or guideline as opposed to information relevant to the actual XLIFF specification.


P.S. Due to vacation, please accept my apologies for the next meeting

Peter Reynolds <Peter.Reynolds@Berlitz.ie>

09/05/02 10:43 AM

        To:        "'xliff@lists.oasis-open.org'" <xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>
        Subject:        [xliff] Minutes of the XLIFF TC August 6th. 2002


Minutes of the XLIFF TC August 6th. 2002

1/ Attendance:  Jonathan Clark, Tony Jewtushenko,  Mark Levins,  Mat Lovatt,
John Reid, Peter Reynolds, Yves Savourel, Mirek Driml, Reinhard Schaler,
David Pooley.
Apologies:  John Corrigan, Enda McDonnell, Christian Lieske
Observer: Bryan Schnabel.

2/ Minutes of the last meeting were agreed as a correct record.

3/  Work in progress

Migration policy: This was agreed unanimously in an email ballot with 10
votes in favour.

Formalized Extensibility: Yves presented the work on Formalized
Extensibility. He raised the issue that there had been little feedback on
attribute lists from the TC members. It was decided that Yves would complete
work on this document which would then be sent to TC. Members could have a
day to reply with clarifications before this went to a ballot vote.

Embedded XLIFF: Yves presented this document and said there were three ways
Embedded XLIFF could be implemented. These are:
1/ Embedding a Full XLIFF Document
2/ Embedding One or More XLIFF Constructs
3/ Embedding Localization Directives
Yves suggested that the TC should look at this to decide on Embedding
Localisation directives.
It was greed that we would look at this and discuss it later.
Yves will send out a snippet of this specification.
Working draft
Naming conventions: There was a discussion on this which decided the
following changes to the list in the Elements and Attributes section (1.1.1)
of the section on Naming Convention (1.1) :
The wording for item 3 is changed to 'Hyphen is the preferred means of
creating composite names'.
Item 4 and 5 were deleted. Deletion of item 5 was proposed by John and
seconded by Mark and agreed unanimously after some discussion.
Item 6 is changed to 'A single attribute definition will exist for each
attribute name'. For example coord refers to co-ordinates and nothing else.
In section 1.1.2 it was agreed that the second paragraph be changed to say
'semi-colon as a list separator for values' instead of 'semi-colon as a
concatenation separator for values'
With section 1.1.3 it was agreed that the second paragraph would be removed
and the references to Processing Instructions will be removed from  the
description of <context>, <context-group> and <prop-group>.
Section 1.1.4 - The second sentence which refers to 5.3 filenames will be
There was also some debate about whether or not there was a need to have the
Naming Conventions section in the published specification.
Group-order: It was agreed that the spec would be modified so that the
ordering was systematic and this will be enforced by the schema.
The issues raised by Christian were deferred to the next meeting when he
should be present.
4/ LISA Conference
It is planned to have a face to face meeting with video links at the LISA
conference. Tony will confirm the date for this after consulting with those
traveling to Heidelberg. Christian will be asked to organise the video
conference at the German side. The meeting will take place at 5 PM (Germany)
to give all members of the TC the opportunity to attend.
Yves and Christian have sent out their draft presentation which was very
positively received. They would like case studies for this. Mark agreed to
do a case study on the Domino Global Workbench tool. It was suggested we
should have a number of similar case studies of XLIFF being used.

5/ Next meeting: September 17th. 2002

Peter Reynolds, Software Development Manager, Berlitz GlobalNET
3, West Pier Business Campus, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, Ireland
Tel: +353-1-202-1280
Fax: +353-1- 202-1299
Web Site: http//www.berlitzglobalnet.com
"Don't just translate it, BerlitzIT" http//www.berlitzIT.com

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