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Subject: RE: [xliff] XLIFF Teleconference Details & Agenda - Tuesday,21 Ja n2003

Hi Tony,
here you are with a few thoughts on Nikolai's issue.
Nikolai is right that <group> and <trans-unit> element have got a lot of common attributes - in fact all possible attributes from <group> are included in the list of attributes for <trans-unit>. In spite of this I'm not sure this would be the best solution to merge those two elements into one as Nikolai suggested. We could just use the elements a little different way. Now I do not have any exact idea and I'm just thinking aloud so anyone feel free to tear it apart. I would add an attribute to the <trans-unit> - similar as Nikolai suggested - called e.g. for-group and we could remove all the attributes from the group element as those are already included in the <trans-unit> element. One <trans-unit> element would contain information for the whole group and the other elements could be nested inside the subgroup. The structure of the file could look like the following:
Example (simplified)
    <trans-unit id="DIALOG1" for-group="yes" font="MS Sans Serif;8" style="WS_POPUP | WS_CAPTION | WS_THICKFRAME" coord="0;0;96;28">
        <target phase-name="after_resizing" coord="0;0;96;28">    -- local version of dialog coordinates
        <trans-unit id="IDC_EDIT1" coord="35;7;53;14">
            <target phase-name="after_resizing" coord="40;7;60;14">    -- local version of editbox coordinates
        <trans-unit id="IDCSTATIC" coord="13;9;23;8">
            <target phase-name="after_resizing" coord="25;9;35;8">         -- local version of label coordinates
            Translated Label:           
This could solve Nikolai's issue however it could also introduce any new issues I'm not aware of at the moment.
I'm looking forward to your response.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jewtushenko [mailto:Tony.Jewtushenko@oracle.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:20 PM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [xliff] XLIFF Teleconference Details & Agenda - Tuesday,21 Jan 2003

Dial-in Instructions:
When: Tues,  21 Jan 2003, 04:00PM London/Dublin  / 08:00 AM PST

UK National Dial-In:      0870 550 3090
International Dial-In:   +44 118 924 0290
Meeting ID: 30543

1/Roll Call  (5 min)
2/Previous Meeting Minutes - accept as is or amend:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200301/msg00014.html
3/Reminder regarding OASIS TC Membership policy  - TC membership is terminated after 3 consecutive absences,  in some cases without advanced warning.
4/Review all remaining Open Issues listed in the tracking report:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200301/msg00017.html
5/Schedule of remaining work (10 minutes)

21 Jan:     Reformat proposal, Matt (Issue 6)
                Defaults proposal - any additional attributes?, John  (issue 3)
Allow one more meeting to conclude these discussion= 28 Jan
Release Candidate on Jan. 29.
Allow two meetings discussion of spec changes.
Feb 11 target date

Revisions or amendments to the schedule?

5/ Carried over from last week:  Discussion and response to recent xliff-comment regarding resizing of RC type data within XLIFF - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-comment/200212/msg00000.html .  This query relates to Mat's "reformat" issue (issue # 6)

6/Any New Business

7/Next meeting - Tues,  28 Jan 2003, 04:00PM Europe/London/Dublin  / 08:00 AM PST
Tony Jewtushenko                   mailto:tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com
Sr. Tools Program Manager   direct tel: +353.1.8039080
Product Management - Tools Technology Team
Oracle Corporation, Ireland

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