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Subject: [xliff] Fw: Solution #6
FYI: forwarded from Yves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Savourel" <ysavourel@translate.com> To: "Tony Jewtushenko" <tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: FW: Solution #6 > Hi Tony, > > I'm still off the main xliff eList (still trying to register back). I could > post this in the xliff-comments list, but it really belong in the main list: > Could you please post this for me? Many thanks. > > -yves > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@translate.com] > Sent: Wed, January 22, 2003 10:35 AM > To: XLIFF list > Subject: Solution #6 > > > Hi everyone, > > After some more thinking on the reformat issue, I came to the conclusion > that the question is not which solution is best for coord/font/reformat > (It's solution #2, I think we will all agree with this if we see the > backward compatibility as a moot point). The real question is: are we now > working on 1.1 or 2.0? > > For the last eight months we have been working with the assumption this was > a minor revision (at least I have) and now, a few weeks from our release > goal for publication, we would decide to make it a major revision. Maybe we > should twice before crossing that line. I can see two main reasons against > such move: > > 1- Some of the choices we made during this past months might have been > different if we knew to be working on a major revision. This, in my mind, > would jeopardizes what 2.0 'should have been'. > > 2- I would think we need to work on profiles (how to represent RC, > properties, HTML, etc. in XLIFF) before moving to a 2.0 version because it > is arguable that some of our findings there could lead to structural changes > as well. > > To me, these two reasons seem enough not go to a 2.0 revision. > > Hence, if we are indeed working on 1.1, then the changes we make should be > backward compatible. That is a 1.1 tool should be able to cope with a 1.0 > file. One good way to ensure this is to be able to validate a 1.0 document > with the 1.1 XSD. > > The solution #2 (which I see as the best solution as well) breaks that > compatibility. This would leave us with solution #1, #3, or #4. In my > opinion none of them is good: either too awkward or making it too burdening > for tool by having to support a major construct two different ways. > > Therefore, I have a solution #6, that I think Gérard almost hinted at, two > meetings ago: > > Let's not change coord/font/reformat in 1.1. The best solution is #2 and > belongs to 2.0. > > I do realize some of us are looking forward for having coord/font/reformat > changed, but I would beg them to look at the problem with in mind the two > reasons not to go to a major revision today. Which choice is more costly: > Having to support a temporary solution for reformat or the 'damages' we > would do to 2.0 down the line? > > I'm not trying to block anything or being a pest :) but just trying to look > ahead. It seems to me we have already achieved quite a lot in 1.1. Among the > major improvements are: the move to XSD, the cleaning up of attribute lists, > and the addition of extensibility (something that might help solving > temporarily the reformat question). > > Such 1.1 should give new-users a good base to start and make déjà-users > happy as well. This would also give us some time to do a very solid 2.0 > that, hopefully, would be 'final'. Most unforseen issues with 1.1 could > probably be solved through extensibility, and the TC could learn from the > various experiences of tool implementers, and come up built-in solutions in > 2.0. > > One last note: I thing that there is another changed we have made that > breaks backward compatibility: we introduced a forced order of the elements > <header>, <group>, <trans-unit>, <alt-trans> and <bin-unit>, where no order > were enforced before. If we still go to 1.1, it's a mistake and it should be > corrected (i.e. postponed to 2.0). Hopefully, that correction would not be > not too much of a problem for anyone. > > Kenavo, > -yves > > > >
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