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Subject: Segmentation Issues in XLIFF
All: Magnus Martikainen of Trados has recently raised some issues with respect to XLIFF and segmentation (see email trail below). Although we've purposefully chosen to not deal with segmentation in our XLIFF specifications to date, our current work on resource representation guides provides a good reference point for initial discussion of this topic. The segmentation topic is sufficiently complex, broad and deep that I suggest we create a subcommittee (formal or informal) to delve into it rather than attempt to address it in open committee meetings (the next one, by the way, is next Tuesday, 17 March 2003). I'll add the segmentation topic to our teleconference agenda, but feel free make your views and thoughts known to the TC via email. Regards, Tony -------- Original Message --------
Hi Tony, Thank you
for your kind reply and the
invitation to join the Technical Committee. I am very interested in
contributing to this development, and TRADOS will be looking closer
into our
different options for joining OASIS. I am glad to
hear of your initiative to
advance this topic. I have no objections to you forwarding my thoughts
on this
matter to other members of the committee or the public XLIFF mailing
list, and
I would be very interested in hearing opinions, input, and ideas from
other
members. Regards, Magnus From: Tony
Jewtushenko
[mailto:Tony.Jewtushenko@oracle.com] Hi Magnus: Hi Magnus,
Your ideas on the segmentation representation look very interesting. I agree
also on the different points you made. The two areas of potential problems
that I think will be the most difficult to deal with would be:
- Compatibility. Hopefully we should be able to come up with a mechanism
that will allow a seamless backward compatibility. Technically your example
could be already represented in XLIFF 1.1 using a different namespace for
the <segment-group> elements, and that namespace using XLIFF namespace
itself (I think, although someone with better grasp on the use of XSD <any
namespace=##other"> vs. <any namespace="##any"> should check that).
I'm not sure how current tools would deal with it though.
- As you also mentioned, the potential change of <ept> and <bpt> elements as
their content is broken down could also be a little tricky.
I'd like the input of the other XLIFF users/developers. As I'm often using
Trados tools, or Trados-like tools, my view of the translation process is
similar to yours. But other angles would be nice to have, often it allows to
come up with better ideas.
The TC is currently working on various "profiles" (how to represent various
formats into XLIFF), but segmentation will have to be addressed one way or
another at some point. The sooner we start exchanging ideas, maybe coming up
with a namespace for it, which later could be simple integrated in XLIFF's
core, or anything that can make things progress, the better.
Tony, John: any thoughts? Where should we go from here?
Cheers,
-yves
--
Tony Jewtushenko mailto:tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com
Principal Product Manager direct tel: +353.1.8039080
Oracle Corporation,
-- Tony Jewtushenko mailto:tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com Principal Product Manager direct tel: +353.1.8039080 Oracle Corporation, Ireland |
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