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Subject: Groups - XLIFF TC Monthly Teleconference modified



XLIFF TC Monthly Teleconference has been modified by Peter Reynolds (peter.reynolds@bowneglobal.ie).

Date:  Tuesday, 20 July 2004
Time:  04:00pm - 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time

Event Description:
04:00PM London/Dublin / 08:00 AM PST 1. Call one of the MeetingPlace phone numbers: From the AMER region dial: * 1-888-967-2253 * +1-650-607-2253 From the APAC region dial: * +61 2 8817 6100 From the EMEA region dial: * +44 118 924 9000 2. Enter the Meeting ID (126680) followed by the # key 3. Press 1 to confirm the Meeting ID 4. If the organizer has not started the meeting you will be: a. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key b. Placed in the waiting room on music hold until the organizer starts the meeting. If the organizer has started the meeting you will be: a. Asked to enter the Meeting Password (030543) b. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key

Agenda:
Agenda:
1/roll call
2/approve minutes of last meeting:http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00005.html
Yves moved,  Andrzej seconded motion to accept the minutes
3/ Work in Progress: 
  a. Representation Guides: 

   i. HTML / RTF: 
      Update: http://www.oasisopen.org/archives/xliff/200404/msg00019.html 
      Major issue to be resolved is whether or not we can extend at Source and Target.  Review the ballot results on extending Source and Target.  Review any additional progress made by Yves.

   ii.  WinRes (John, Yves) 
   iii. Resx (Enda, Gerard) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00007.html  - will discuss Florian's issues document:  http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00001.html

   iv. Java Resource Bundles (Tony & John)
   v.  XForms ( Andrzej )

4/New and unresolved issues:
   a.Mat: Translation of Voice XML Issues
         Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00016.html
         Latest Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html
         This issue also relates to adding extension points to Source and Target,  and could be more easily dealt with if extensions were permitted.   May also be dealt with using processing instructions.  No resolution at this time.  Will approach W3C i18n WG for their take on this.
      
     b.Mat: Accepting Suggested Translations In XLIFF
         Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00000.html
         Latest Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html
Mat raised the issue of how to identify which provided Alt-Trans,  if any,  has been used by a translator. The TC suggested that this could be dealt with by using extensions,  or phase-name.  Mat to author some proposals and bring back to the TC for further input.
5/ Status Report from Segmentation SC (Magnus) - the Segmentation SC is on hiatus for the summer
6/ All other business- none.

Minutes:
Agenda:
1/roll call
There were 10 members present as recorded in Kavi 
Apologies: Matt, Magnus, Eiju, John

2/approve minutes of last meeting:http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00005.html
David moved, Gerard seconded 

3/ NON-BINDING Vote for : Should we add extension points at Source & Target?
There was a vote on this topic which got the following result
5 votes for 'Add unconstrained namespace extension points'
5 votes for 'Add constrained namespace extensions points'
Since the vote Bryan has sent out a mail suggesting 5 approaches for dealing with this. 
see: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00007.html
There has been some email discussion on this. Gerard outlined his and John's response and their concerns over interoperability. 
Christian suggested that we were concerned with everything that was in the XLIFF namespace but not with other namespaces. There was a debate about whether or not other namespaces should be ignored or not.
Tony suggested that we should trash this out further in emails and come up with use cases in terms of problematic issues.
Christian suggested that there should be a flag to say you are using a namespace at an extension point. 
David raised the possibility of having some to flag what sort of behaviour is permitted for a particular namespace. There was a short discussion on this and whether this could be achieved using the translation directives suggestions from Richard Ishida of the W3C.

4/ Work in Progress: 
a. Representation Guides: 
i. HTML / RTF: 
Tony will put together a ballot on this.
ii. WinRes (John, Yves) 
iii. Resx (Enda, Gerard)Gerard will reply to Florian's issues in the email: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00001.html
iv. Java Resource Bundles (Tony & John)
v. XForms ( Andrzej )
XForms represented guide now included with Yves HTML guide.

5/New and unresolved issues:
a.Mat: Translation of Voice XML Issues
Mat is on holidays
b.Mat: Accepting Suggested Translations In XLIFF
Mat is on holidays

6/ Status Report from Segmentation SC (Magnus) - Magnus is on holidays

7/ All other business- 
Report from Oscar
Gerard announced they have established Special interest groups to look at TBX link and localisation directive.  Any interested in these should contact Gerard. Gerard will liaise with the TC on this.
Tony asked whether it was decide if we could use SRX. Gerard will check this out.
Gerard will not attend the next meeting
This event is one in a list of recurring events.
Other event dates in this series:

Tuesday, 20 April 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time
Tuesday, 18 May 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time
Tuesday, 15 June 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time
Tuesday, 17 August 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time
Tuesday, 21 September 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time
Tuesday, 19 October 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time
Tuesday, 16 November 2004, 04:00pm to 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time

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