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Subject: RE: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Monthly Teleconference modified

Hi there,

I cannot get through, only get a busy signal for +44 118 376 9023 Any hints?

Best regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com [mailto:tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:19 PM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Monthly Teleconference modified

XLIFF TC Monthly Teleconference has been modified by Tony Jewtushenko (tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com).

Date:  Tuesday, 17 August 2004
Time:  04:00pm - 05:00pm Greenwich Mean Time

Event Description:
Tuesday, 20 April 04:00PM London/Dublin / 08:00 AM PST
International Dial-In: +44 118 376 9023
Meeting ID: 30543

1/roll call
2/approve minutes of last meeting:http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00013.html
3/ Work in Progress:

a.Discussion on Adding extension points at Source & Target:
Non-binding ballot result:  
	5 votes for 'Add unconstrained namespace extension points'
	5 votes for 'Add constrained namespace extensions points'
Since the vote Bryan has sent out a mail suggesting 5 approaches for dealing with this. 
	see: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00007.html
There has been some email discussion on this.
Gerard outlined his and John's response and their concerns over interoperability. 
Christian suggested that we were concerned with everything that was in the XLIFF namespace but not with other namespaces. There was a debate about whether or not other namespaces should be ignored or not.
Christian suggested that there should be a flag to say you are using a namespace at an extension point. 
David raised the possibility of having some to flag what sort of behaviour is permitted for a particular namespace. There was a short discussion on this and whether this could be achieved using the translation directives suggestions from Richard Ishida of the W3C.
Bryan further reduced the approach to the marking content in extended Source/Target to two options: 1/DEGREES OF CONSTRAINT FOR EXTENDED ATTRIBUTES on Source and Target;  2/SIGNALING TRANSATION INSTRUCTIONS (YES or NO) FOR EXTENDED ELEMENTS in Source and Target.  Full discussion is presented here: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00017.html
Yves' Use Cases:  http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00014.html
Mat suggested adding a new element (extend) to store state and other Source/Target level attributes.  http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00018.html There was some discussion on the merits and problems with this approach.
Christian suggested that non-translatable text nodes in Source/Target extensions should be referenced using serialization,  and not stored inline with translatable content.  http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00026.html There was additional discussion on this proposal.

b. Representation Guides:
 i. HTML / RTF:
Latest update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00012.html
      Major issue to be resolved is whether or not we can extend at Source and Target.  Need to review agree on approach for  extending Source and Target.  Review any additional progress made by Yves.

   ii.  WinRes (John, Yves) 
   iii. Resx (Enda, Gerard) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00007.html  - will discuss Florian's issues document:  http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00001.html

   iv. Java Resource Bundles (Tony & John)
   v.  XForms ( Andrzej )

c. Unresolved issues:
   a.Mat: Translation of Voice XML Issues
         Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00016.html
         Latest Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html
         This issue also relates to adding extension points to Source and Target,  and could be more easily dealt with if extensions were permitted.   May also be dealt with using processing instructions.  No resolution at this time.  Will approach W3C i18n WG for their take on this.
     b.Mat: Accepting Suggested Translations In XLIFF
         Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00000.html
         Latest Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html
Mat raised the issue of how to identify which provided Alt-Trans,  if any,  has been used by a translator. The TC suggested that this could be dealt with by using extensions,  or phase-name.  Mat to author some proposals and bring back to the TC for further input.

4/ Status Report from Segmentation SC (Magnus)

5/ Related work in other standards groups: 
Gerard announced they have established Special interest groups to look at TBX link and localisation directive.  Any interested in these should contact Gerard. Gerard will liaise with the TC on this.
Tony asked whether it was decide if we could use SRX - Gerard will check this out.

6/ Proposed change to OASIS IPR Policy
The draft IPR Policy is at
and the FAQ is at

7/ All other business


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