Subject: Groups - Semi - Monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference modified
Semi - Monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference has been modified by Mr. Tony Jewtushenko* Date: Tuesday, 02 May 2006 Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET Event Description: Standing monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference. 1. Call one of the MeetingPlace phone numbers: From the AMER region dial: * 1-888-967-2253 * +1-650-607-2253 From the APAC region dial: * +61 2 8817 6100 From the EMEA region dial: * +44 118 924 9000 2. Enter the Meeting ID (805534) followed by the # key 3. If the organizer has not started the meeting you will be: a. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key b. Placed in the waiting room on music hold until the organizer starts the meeting. If the organizer has started the meeting you will be: a. Asked to enter the Meeting Password (030543) b. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key Agenda: Agenda: 1/roll call 2/Previous meeting minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200604/msg00006.html 3/ Work in Progress: A. (OPEN) XLIFF 1.2 Specification a. Latest 1.2 specs: Latest revision from Tony: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200605/msg00004.html Recent revision from Tony: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200604/msg00009.html Needs to be updated to include the traditional / strict usage guidelines. b. (OPEN) Doug's latest XSD update: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200604/msg00007.html It was agreed that we would use one namespace for XLIFF and with the filename we would switch between transitional and strict. It was agreed that we add a section to the spec which explains this. Doug agreed to update the HTML profile: Rodolfa updated the PO: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200605/msg00000.html and Java profiles: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200605/msg00002.html Bryan updated the examples and they are included in the latest spec distribution archive c.(DEFERRED) Doug's proposal to deprecate restype attribute for bin-target: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00022.html DECISION: Leave as is for 1.2 as it is too risky to make this change now. d.(CLOSED) Andzrej: XLIFF inline elements with special characteristics: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00001.html Response from Florian: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00005.html Response from Andzrej: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00006.html Issue: Do we open up the spec to address the rawreplace=' ' mechanism suggested by Florian? At past TC meeting, Andzrej explained the issue. Magnus also concurred that this is a very useful feature, but probably should rename to something more simple and clear. Tony prepared a ballot with all naming suggestions, and the ballot results are here-> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=975 DECISION: Ballot selected equiv-text as the attribute name. Andzrej will author spec modifications. ACTION: Added to latest spec revision (CLOSED) ISSUE: Related issue was raised by Florian regarding support for tools tips for providing guidelines to localisation tools users. It was suggested that the note element provides this capability, and mrk provides the ability to mark up inline by using the comment attribute, or even using custom attributes. B. Representation Guides: a. (REOPENNED) HTML ISSUE: Spec needs to be reopened to deal with inline tags issue. Also need to add section on best practices for exchanging data between XLIFF and TMX, DITA, etc. Need to address the challenges of exchanging content in the g inline tag . TMX does not at this time support the g or x tags, which means any content in XLIFF with these tags will not exchange with TMX. It was suggested that TMX should be updated to support these tags, but since XLIFF TC is not the owner of the specs, it was suggested that Andrzej suggest these enhancements to the OSCAR committee at LISA. Andzrej indicated that TMX is due for a revision soon and this may be a good time to suggest enhancements. ACTION: Andzrej to submit g and x tags to OSCAR as enhancements to TMX. ACTION: HTML representation guide will need to be reopened with recommendations for inline tags g and x may mean restricting use to b/e pt. ACTION: Adding Use Cases (with example code) for how to exchange TM with TMX is advised, and how to exchange metrics with GMX. Feedback from LISA OSCAR? Rodolfa is working on an example of exchanging TM between TMX and XLIFF and will try to have this by the next meeting. Rodolfa explained that GMX could be used as a namespace replacing the prop element. b. (DEFERRED) NET & Windows Resources NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER Initial draft of .NET Profile: Latest draft of Windows Res Data Resources (revised 21 Sep 2005): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00011.html ISSUE: TC considering dropping this representation guide from list of deliverables for 1.2. There was no progress to report. c. (OPEN) Java Resource Bundles Rudolfa is working on this and produced a new draft: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200605/msg00002.html d. (OPEN) PO Files: Updated PO files representation document to 1.2 specification -> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00007.html Issue: This document needs to be approved as 1.2 committee draft. Will discuss if a ballot should take place in the meeting or online... Rudolfo revised with recommended approach for handling escape sequences: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200605/msg00000.html D. Open issues: a. Translation of Voice XML Issues NEW UPDATE (5 Mar 2006) from Mat: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00003.html Archived Historical detail: ~ Open until resolution of namespace issue. - Action Item: Mat will submit a proposal on how to handle Voice XML issues. Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00016.html Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html b. Extending XLIFF with separate namespaces. Some thought has been put into this issue but not yet even in draft form. ACTION ITEM: Mat & Andzrej will work offline to advance this work. DEADLINE FOR COMPLETION OF WORK ON REPRESENTATION GUIDES Bryan suggested that it would be a good idea to set a deadline for completion of the representation guides. Our final work will be finished on May 2nd with all changes to specifications and profiles complete before this. May 9th will be the date for final changes. A ballot will be created on May 9th and will close on the 16th. This will be to accept all work. c. (OPEN) Best practice: should extraction process create target elements? Topic proposed by Doug. Discussed in mailing list: Initial Proposal (Doug): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00023.html Comment (Bryan): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00023.html Comment (Tony): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00035.html Comment (Rodolfo): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00032.html Need a meeting to discuss the best practices for DITA / XML XLIFF transformations, amongst the issues noted above. Tony will talk o Christian about and schedule a meeting if needed. Rodolfa suggested that Tuesday would not be a good idea to have it on Tuesday as this conflicts with the DITA meeting. Proposal: Wednesday, 3 May at 4pm BST / 11am EST? 4/XLIFF 1.2 Certification activities: Placeholder for any Ignite issues requiring discussion... 5/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups: A. W3C i18n B. Oscar C. Trans-WS D. LRC E: OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=dita 6/Events- none scheduled 7/All other business 8/Next meeting: in 2 weeks 11am EST / 4pm BST 16 May 2006 Minutes: Meeting did not achieve quorum. Discussed briefly a number of issues around remaining updates and agreed to revise spec via group email, publish within a week, and issue a ballot to approve the work before the next teleconference. 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