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Subject: Meeting Notes: [xliff] Reminder: details for today's XLIFF TC optional discussion meeting
Attendees: Tony, Doug, Mat
We discussed the topic of whether the XLIFF TC should recommend a “Best Practice” for creation of XLIFF documents when extracting content from other resource formats. Specifically, the main issue is whether as a new XLIFF document is created initially if a blank “target” element should be created and populated from the contents of “source” element upon extraction, or on the other hand if the new XLIFF document should be created without “target” elements.
First we all agreed that any recommendation for extraction “best practices” would not be included in the normative spec or non-normative representation guides. Any recommendations for tools developers would be strictly limited to a couple of *brief* paragraphs or even sentences in a FAQ or Whitepaper. It was agreed that some mention of a couple of recommended scenarios would be a good idea, but to stress that it’s really up to the tools developer to decide on features.
Secondly, we all agreed that an XLIFF document with source but no target elements is still a valid XLIFF document, and as such XLIFF capable tools should support opening such a document for editing. What the tool does next is not to be specified in any TC recommendation. It was mentioned that XLIFF enabled tools produce new XLIFF documents inconsistently – ie, one tool copies source -> target while another creates new XLIFFs without a target. It was recommended that the FAQ or whitepaper indicates that opening XLIFF documents without target elements should be supported by all XLIFF tools, as it is a perfectly valid document.
Third, it was mentioned that the IGNITE EU funded project will be working independently to “certify” localization tools for compliance with localization standards, XLIFF being one of them. They would be the natural body to establish best practices for implementing best practices, not the XLIFF TC. We should of course provide input. And TC members may contribute to that group as well – see http://www.igniteweb.org
We briefly discussed the most logical scenarios for creating a new XLIFF document and target element handling during an extraction process:
Advantages of Scenario 1: 1. Conserves space, improves tool performance and reduces network bandwidth requirements by eliminating redundant content. 2. Lets the tool decide on best way to create a target.
Disadvantages of Scenario 1:
Advantages of Scenario 2:
Disadvantages of Scenario 2:
Advantages of Scenario 3:
Disadvantages of Scenario 3:
That’s about it.
Further suggestions and comments are welcome, and I’d like to progress this discussion via email as far as possible.
Regards, Tony
-----Original Message-----
Informal XLIFF TC meeting to discuss issues relating to best practices for extraction process. This informal discussion is not required to maintain XLIFF TC membership.
Date: Thursday, 1 June 2006 Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm EST (4pm BST)
Event Description: Standing monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference. 1. Call one of the MeetingPlace phone numbers: From the AMER region dial: * 1-888-967-2253 * +1-650-607-2253 From the APAC region dial: * +61 2 8817 6100 From the EMEA region dial: * +44 118 924 9000
2. Enter the Meeting ID (805534) followed by the # key
3. If the organizer has not started the meeting you will be:
a. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key b. Placed in the waiting room on music hold until the organizer starts the meeting.
If the organizer has started the meeting you will be:
a. Asked to enter the Meeting Password (030543) b. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key
AGENDA:
c. (OPEN) Best practice: should extraction process create target elements? Topic proposed by Doug. Discussed in mailing list: Initial Proposal (Doug): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00023.html Comment (Bryan): http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00025.html Comment (Tony): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00035.html Comment (Rodolfo): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200603/msg00032.html
Need a meeting to discuss the best practices for DITA / XML XLIFF transformations, amongst the issues noted above. Rodolfa suggested that Tuesday would not be a good idea to have it on Tuesday as this conflicts with the DITA meeting.
Tony Jewtushenko Director- R&D - Product Innovator Ltd. (Ireland) P: +353.1.8875183; M: +353.87.2479057; W: www.productinnovator.com
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