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Subject: Groups - XLIFF TC Meeting (XLIFF 2.0 focus) added
XLIFF TC Meeting (XLIFF 2.0 focus) has been added by Bryan Schnabel*
Date: Tuesday, 17 February 2009
Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET
Event Description:
1/ Call one of the FreeConferenceCall phone numbers:
US: (712) 432-1600
US: (605) 772-3100
Austria: 0820 4000 1552
Belgium: 070 35 9974
France: 0826 100 256
Germany: 01805 00 76 09
Ireland: 0818 270 021
Italy: 848 390 156
Netherlands: 0870 001 920
Spain: 902 886025
Switzerland: 0848 560 179
UK: 0870 35 204 74
2/ Enter the Participant Access Code: 737043#
Agenda:
1/ Roll call
2/ Approve previous meeting minutes:
Accept, reject, or amend. (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200901/msg00009.html)
3/ Announcements
A. Today will be Eric's final TC meeting - warm thanks to Eric for his contributions
4/ TC charter update
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/charter.php)
A. Mary outlined the criteria for updating the charter:
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200806/msg00004.html)
B. Tony to draft charter update for first December meeting.
5/ Promoting XLIFF (Peter, David F.)
A. Peter to write up proposal on how to promote XLIFF among content handlers to export/import XLIFF.
B. Rodolfo to invite Translations.com to join the XLIFF TC. He will contact Mary McRae and ask her to invite the company
C. Bryan making inroads with XML Editor Tool companies
6/ Preparing for a vote on Eric's representation guide (ICU Resource Bundle)
(http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icuhtml/trunk/design/locale/xliff-profile-icuresourcebundle-1.2.htm)
A. Rodolfo to test XLIFF code samples
B. Rodolfo and Eric to adapt the guide to the current templates
(For XLIFF 2.0 themed meetings, jump to Category 3)
** Category 2 Issues: XLIFF 1.2.1 (quick Turn) **
Note - All issues should be identified, and ready to be put into the 1.2.1
Spec and Schema. It would be useful now to verify or identify action items to make it so.
(report from Rodolfo and Doug), Doug has given Rodolfo the updated schema for XLIFF 1.2.1
7/ XLIFF 1.2.1 Issues are tracked on the WIKI
(http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF1.2/Errata)
8/ Semantics on Attributes on Structural Elements (Christian)
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00006.html)
9/ Turning schemas over to Asgeir to begin XLIFF 2.0
** Category 3 issues: XLIFF 2.0 **
10/ Asgeirs tracking details page,
(http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/Ideas) will serve as documentation for each of the items being tracked on the goals page.
Note: kept the 1.x numbering to match the wiki
1.1. Change Tracking / Version Control
1.2. Document-centric Localisation
1.3. Native support for ITS
1.4. Enhanced Commenting Support
1.5. Permission Control and Validation
1.6. XLIFF as a Project Model
1.7. Resource Inheritance
1.8. Improved Whitespace Handling
***Need to add these topics to Asgeir's page, from (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0Goals):***
Must Haves:
1.9 - Enable internal-file to contain XML Markup, not CDATA [Christian] (http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200709/msg00006.html)
* Bryan mocked up samples of how this could be done (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200806/msg00005.html)
1.10 - Create a bare-bones XLIFF core, then provide extension modules that support additional features. [Magnus, Christian]
* "Simplify, Extend and Clarify" - V2.0
* (Core XLIFF functionality would be in primary XLIFF namespace; would be very simple to implement.)
(Extensions would provide support for more complicated features like, Segmentation, Pre-Translation, Generic Inline Markup, etc.)
Magnus said that he will try and get back to this and add more information.
* Official XLIFF guide for subsetting the XLIFF XSD (http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200709/msg00008.html)
* Named Types for XLIFF XSD (http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200709/msg00007.html)
Note: Bryan merged this item as a sub here - might need to make it its own item
* Make XLIFF 2.0 modular. That way tools could certify to support XLIFF modules (like Full XLIFF Trans-unit support)
A. Christian and Magnus to create proposal on modular subsets and report back on progress by end-of-year.
Should Haves:
1.11 - Submitting to ISO once XLIFF becomes an OASIS standard [Tony]
1.12 - Additional Representation Guides (DITA,.NET / Win32, Docbook)
* Proposed ICU Reference Guide http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icuhtml/trunk/design/locale/xliff-profile-icuresourcebundle-1.2.htm [Eric]
1.13 - Subsetting / restricting XSD as proposed by Christian - V2.0 Should have but could be Must have. We will wait until Christian discusses with TC
1.14 - Version control Metadata - need to track revision information - V2.0
1.15 - Include xml:tm in the non-normative section (http://www.lisa.org/standards/xmltm/)
1.16 - Ability to store Multilingual Content. -
(will be promoted to Must or Should if a champion is assigned)
We had a brief discussion on this and various questions were raised about how this would work.
Bryan mentioned that his company achieve this through using the file element and having the
same id and source for corresponding trans units.
It was agreed that we would find the owner for this and they should champion it.
Until then we will keep it on the requirements doc.
1.17 - Adapt inline element to match the markup of the new convention in TMX
* need to have one tag for content though
* and one for localization metadata
* need to associate more information than we do today
(i.e., need extensibility point)
11/ Topics for XLIFF 2.0 (Rodolfo)
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200807/msg00003.html)
12/ XLIFF 2.0 proposal: Allow [note] to reference [mrk] (Magnus, Bryan, Doug)
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200808/msg00004.html)
Note: Magnus stated this item has been moved to the wiki. [ Magnus, I could not find it in the wiki -Doug ]
** Non categorized **
13/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups:
A. W3C i18n
B. Oscar
C. LRC
D. OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee
E. OAXAL
14/ New Business
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