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Subject: Groups - XLIFF Teleconference added
In short,
- let's come prepared to resolve
(http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/OneContentModel/Requirements?action=show&redirect=Requirements)
3.1.3, 3.1.5, 3.1.6
- let's think about transitioning from defining scope, to defining
requirements and solutions
- if we have time, perhaps we can quickly resolve 6/ and 7/
(they've been on the agenda for a good while)
Thanks,
Bryan
-- Bryan Schnabel*
XLIFF Teleconference has been added by Bryan Schnabel*
Date: Tuesday, 15 September 2009
Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET
Event Description:
US: (712) 432-1600
Austria: 0820 4000 1552
Belgium: 070 35 9974
France: 0826 100 256
Germany: 01805 00 76 09
Ireland: 0818 270 021
Italy: 848 390 156
Netherlands: 0870 001 920
Spain: 902 886025
Switzerland: 0848 560 179
UK: 0844 581 9102 (note: new number)
Agenda:
1/ Roll call
2/ Approve September 1, 2009 meeting minutes:
Accept, reject, or amend.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200909/msg00001.html
3/ Face to face meeting Munich, November 16, 17
A. Attendee list
Yes: Bryan, and Rodolfo
Maybe: Magnus, Asgeir, Dimitra, David, Christian
No (yes to dial-in): Yves, Tony
B. Rodolfo will check with JoAnn about meeting facility in Munich
4/ XLIFF 1.2 Errata Status Update
A. Rodolfo will update the required documents and submit them for approval.
B. Good news, Schemas, Samples, and Spec are all fixed and ready to be voted on
5/ Review Requirements for inline elements - Goal for today's meeting: clarify the scope and meaning of 3.1.3; resolve 3.1.5; resolve 3.1.6
(come to consensus on the requirements, then assign owners to propose wording for the spec)
(http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/OneContentModel/Requirements?action=show&redirect=Requirements)
{here's my *score card*:
1.1. Definitions/Terminology
"This section is under construction. " (additional examples have been added)
3.1.1. Common representation of 'inline' markup vs 'block-level' markup
1. [Resolved]
2. [Resolved]
3. [Resolved]
3.1.2. Canonical Representation of native content
[Tabled (minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200909/msg00001.html) "A roll call vote was held and it was agreed that discussion of canonical representation will be kept as a working item for further discussion." Bryan: We have spent many meeting cycles and cannot seem to agree on an answer to the question (with regard to defining scope) "Should there only be one physical representation for a given native representation (wrt codes, inline-markup, 'skeleton' data, sub-flows)?" So I request the interested parties establish a point/counterpoint email thread. When all points are documented I will conduct an email ballot to arrive at a "yes/no" decision - no later than 13-OCTOBER-2009]
3.1.3. Extensibility / Annotations
["Christian will modify item 3.1.3 and separate extensibility
from annotations. Action item: Christian to extend the text
to clarify the scope and meaning of the request.]
3.1.4. [Resolved] Content Manipulation
3.1.5. [Not yet addressed] XML Implementation
3.1.6. [Not yet addressed] General Scope}
6/ If something is valid XML and not disallowed explicitly by the specification, it means it is allowed?(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200906/msg00008.html) (Question captured from Yves' comment on Rodolfo's XLIFF Checker Tool)
7/ "XLIFF 2.0 will be complete when _______"
There are two camps for filling in the blank
A. Set a calendar goal. All items that are complete and approved by the
TC make it into XLIFF 2.0 - All others need to wait for the "next train,"
i.e., XLIFF 2.X or XLIFF 3. Special care needs to be taken to define
doneness and ensure no dependency issues between items.
And "XLIFF 2.0 is complete on set date of *Month/Day/Year*"
- or -
B. Define a finite set of XLIFF 2.0 items. Set a cutoff date for adding items.
The list of accepted items becomes our requirements document.
And "XLIFF 2.0 is complete when items 1 through X are finished"
(some in this camp see our current set of goals, as is, as that
finite list)
i. Yves commented that XLIFF is not a software. And we should be careful with releasing versions that do not have some specific features we know will ultimately end up there. (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200904/msg00018.html)
8/ XLIFF 2.0
(http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking)
Minutes:
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