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Subject: XLIFF TC Telelconference - Summary
XLIFF TC Teleconference - Summary Date: Tuesday, 17 August 2010 Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET === 1/ Roll call Present: Asgeir, Doug, Arle, Rodolfo, David, Bryan, Yves, Christian Regrets: Lucia === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 3 August 2010 meeting minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201008/msg00001.html Bryan moves to accept the minutes Arle seconds No dissent === 3.1. Updates on the 1st International XLIFF Symposium Christian: panel for modular/minimal XLIFF Idea to share: try to take a step forward, get ideas. Straw-man proposal could drive the panel. E.g. list of modules Maybe panel could generate list of proposals for the TC Rodolfo: good idea, better with start with short minimal list of elements, get participants to be active too. Christian: panelists would be the main speakers, but sounds like good idea. Rodolfo: need to start soon. e.g. all bin-related elements should go into a different module, etc. Christian: yes, good example Asgeir: good approach, will relate to my presentation too. Maybe we can prepare this off-line before Christian: yes, need to harmonize David: yes, that the goal 2 more persons in the panel (Stefan Pries, Friedel Wolf) Bryan: suggestion: maybe we could also remove some attributes for the minimal list Rodolfo: maybe a draft could be done. Yves: good idea Bryan: minimal/modular different but related Christian: relationship exists (core module = minimal) Bryan: helps for conformance requirements too Christian: please send me input as needed. Maybe survey after the panel too Bryan: webinars for panel(s) Alas the request felt through the cracks because of email problems, OASIS persons not available, and it may be difficult to coordinate Looking more and more impractical Maybe a repeat performance of the panel(s) later Yves: "repeat" of a panel not very doable (it's not a presentation) Asgeir: maybe LRC will record it, so it may be something we could just play back Rodolfo: laptops probably used during the panel: GoToMeeting can record it We did this for the other webinars Bryan: yes we did this Rodolfo: we can post this and get comments back Bryan: need to keep thinking about doing webinars, may help in the future to get people voting during ballot === 3.2. Details of our face to face meeting "Outreach" meeting vs normal face-to-face. Rodolfo: what about the next day? Asgeir: that's the first day of the LRC conference Rodolfo: for the ones not attending the LRC conference maybe Christian, Bryan: just the symposium for me Rodolfo: TC working meeting for the next day Asgeir: could be the evening before is another option Bryan: no sure about meeting room Rodolfo: dinner with XLIFF discussion David: like the day before too. We should decide with doodle, off-line Can work things out with Lucia and Dimitra === 3.3. Move our spec into Docbook (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201007/msg00009.html) a. Filter current spec into Docbook (Bryan) --> Not done yet b. Share in SVN (Bryan, Rodolfo) --> nothing started yet, will start soon === 3.4. Best Practice for dependent files http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201008/msg00002.html Doug started the discussion See the note posted (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201008/msg00009.html) Rodolfo: would every one agree to separate the binary stuff to resolve problem like the one Doug had? Asgeir: probably worth some more thoughts Rodolfo: just to get a feel? Asgeir, Bryan: gut feel is yes Doug: IMO, binary is not core and can be modularized === 4/ XLIFF Inline text SC report Yves: progressing on the requirements, about 6 left Rodolfo: we will have probably elements, would we use a different namespace? Would not like that. Only XLIFF elements in source and target are better Asgeir: agree, but we'll see that on implementation Bryan: same here, namespace can be challenging We need to think about sharing with TMX as well Rodolfo: names/semantic could be the same Asgeir: topic of the SC Yves: yes === 5/ Charter The current charter: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/charter.php Bryan: had an action item to explore the impact. The discoveries are here: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201008/msg00008.html Our charter is out of date Other things missing: No audience, language, not really IPR mode either No need for all deliverables (like representation guides) Re-chartering vs Charter clarification. Both require a special majority vote Bryan's opinion: our current charter to enough out-of-date to justify a re-chartering Maybe we can do it once first, then fine-tune it after requirements are all in (clarification) Rodolfo: yes, out-of-date, but no need for re-chartering The problem is the same, the manner is different. Same purpose, different means Re-chartering/clarifying all the time is not good. We can just clarify. Doug: IMO, we are just updating the charter, but not rechartering. A clarification should be fine. David: but they are speaking about scope, and that is changing. Bryan: a special majority is simply that Mary run the ballot and votes come from TC members only, and with a special percentage. David: then it's not too bad, maybe then re-chartering then clarifying would be fine I think scope is changing so it's re-chartering Rodolfo: deliverables don't count for the scope The problem (scope) is the same The solutions are the deliverables Bryan: we are at the top of the hour. ACTION ITEM: TC members to look at the current charter and determine if its scope reflect our real scope And think if it needs re-chartering or not By email if needed Rodolfo: I think the scope is the same. Bryan: still need to complete the different "fields" (IPR, etc.) And decide if we are expanding the scope in any way Removing parts would be clarification Conformances aspects: not sure if it expands the scope or not David: that would be clarification (new OASIS requirement) Bryan: we can just re-write it and see afterward if it is a re-chartering or clarification === 9/ New Business None. --meeting adjourned
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