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Subject: RE: [xliff] Simplified XLIFF element tree


Hi David,

In your version of the tree <group> and <extr-text> appear as required. I don't like that.

Regards,
Rodolfo
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Rodolfo M. Raya   <rmraya@maxprograms.com>
Maxprograms      http://www.maxprograms.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Filip [mailto:DavidF@MoraviaWorldWide.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:29 AM
> To: Yves Savourel; xliff
> Subject: RE: [xliff] Simplified XLIFF element tree
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> What I had in mind proposing the element for unsegmented was stg like this
> 
> <xliff version1 >1
> 		---[sample use case]
> |
> +--- <file original1 source-language1 datatype1 >+                    ---feature
>      |
>      +--- <body>1
>           |
>           +--- <group id1 resname? restype? >+                        ---menu, how to etc.
>                 |
>                 +--- <extr-text id1 resname? restype? segmented?>+    ---in case it is
> segmented
>                      |                                                   translation module becomes
>                      |	 ^ core						   obligatory to
> hold the                                   			  |
> 					   segments
> ==========================================================
> ================
>                      |	translation module ˇ
>                      |
>                      +--- <trans-unit id1 resname? restype? >*
>                      |     |
>                      |     +--- <source >+ 11
>                      |     |    |
>                      |     |    +--- [inline markup]*
>                      |     |
>                      |     +--- <target >?
>                      |     |    |
>                      |     |    +--- [inline markup]*
>                      |     |
>                      |     +--- <alt-trans >?
> [<alt-trans> same as target is not obligatory, but needs some treatment in
> conformance clause. The conformance clause should say that target is not for
> TM matches or MT suggestions, that alt-trans must be used in case TM or MT
> should be included]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@translate.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:23 PM
> To: 'xliff'
> Subject: RE: [xliff] Simplified XLIFF element tree
> 
> Hi Rodolfo, all,
> 
> > ...
> > Your <trans-unit> elements don't have <source> elements.
> > In an XLIFF file each segment should have a source and
> > a target.
> 
> In XLIFF 1.2 we have <source> and <target> elements.
> In XLIFF 2.0 we don't know yet what we have.
> 
> 
> 
> > Unsegmented text must be optional and independent from
> > translatable segments.
> 
> What is the rational for such a requirement?
> 
> I can't think of a reason why XLIFF 2.0 cannot have a single representation of
> the source with an optional way to indicate its segmentation.
> 
> 
> 
> > In fact, I expect it not to be present in common
> > XLIFF files (my tools will probably never include
> > the unsegmented text).
> 
> I have the opposite experience: By far, most XLIFF documents I see are not
> pre-segmented.
> 
> Cheers,
> -ys
> 
> 
> 
> 
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