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Subject: Re: [xliff] XLIFF Teleconference - Summary
- From: Helena S Chapman <hchapman@us.ibm.com>
- To: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>, xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:52:20 -0400
I'd like to respond to Charter draft line
item. I have some comments about the charter definition:
1. End User: by this definition, I am
not a customer in this charter. I am merely a buyer of localization services
whose operation is significantly impacted by the interoperability (or lack
of) of the standards but not a "typical end user". I agree that
I am not expected to see the underlying standards most of my operational
experiences, however, that does not mean I am not a typical end user.
2. Tool Maker: "A consumer of the
standard who usually does not play an active role in the standard development.
" I do not agree. Tool maker should be playing an active role in the
standard development, so should the clients of localization services and
content providers.
Under Product Description, I'd suggest
adding "extensibility" under this. Modular is the first step
for extensibility but by definition, a modularized standard may not always
be extensible. I also like to see "Implementable" (feasibility
of the standard) being part of this overall goal. What does the word "Product"
mean in a standard charter?
Best regards,
Helena Shih Chapman
Globalization Technologies and Architecture
+1-720-396-6323 or T/L 938-6323
Waltham, Massachusetts
From:
Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
To:
<xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:
08/02/2011 12:09 PM
Subject:
[xliff] XLIFF
Teleconference - Summary
XLIFF Teleconference - Summary
Date: Tuesday, 02 August 2011
Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET
=== 1/ Roll call
Presents: DavidF, Yves, Bryan, Rodolfo, Arle, DavidW, Tom, Christian, Shirley,
Steven, Andrew, Helena.
Regrets: Lucia
=== 2/ Approve Tuesday, 19 July 2011 meeting minutes:
Approved via ballot.
The meeting minutes listed here:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201107/msg00028.html
are approved as the meeting minutes of record per the following recently
closed ballot:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=2070
=== 3/ Sub Committee Reports
--- 3.1. - Inline text (Yves)
Not much to report since there is no call between the two TC session.
- Some discussion by email about how to deal with various XML constructs
in inline content (PI, comments, CDATA).
- Rodolfo is preparing a docbook template the SC may be able to use.
--- 3.2. - XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC Charter
a. Must elect the Promotion and Liaison SC chair before requesting SC
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201108/msg00004.html)
Please be prepared to nominate and vote on SC chair
Bryan: assume David would be nominated to the SC chair.
Bryan nominates DavidF
Steven seconds
DavidF: accepts
Ballot: "Should DavidF be the chair of the XLIFF Promotion and Liaison
SC"?
1 abstain, all others in favor.
DavidF: will try to do my best.
Statement of purpose of the SC:
"XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC is mandated by the TC to coordinate
XLIFF promotion on industrial and academic forums and to coordinate relationships
of the TC with other standardization bodies."
Deliverables:
"The SC will produce at least one report monthly that will be presented
on one of the regular TC meetings."
DavidF moves to vote on the statement of purpose and the deliverable as
above.
Bryan seconds
Ballot result: all in favor.
b. David started a doodle poll to determine Kick Off meeting time
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201108/msg00003.html)
DavidF: Anyone interested please give your input in the poll for day/time
of meeting.
=== 4/ Charter Draft (David F.)
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201106/msg00003.html)
a. ACTION ITEM: All to read David's plan and comment as needed.
b. Last straw poll, "should David continue to work on the Program
Charter"
received 2 yes, 9 abstain, 0 no. Let's see if people have formed opinions
and try another vote.
Rodolfo: still abstain because it's not essential (may be useful)
Not sure DavidF needs to focus on this
Arle: many things are undefined. So maybe yes DavidF need to add to it
so we see more.
DavidF: agree with Rodolfo about not an essential thing, more like a reference
point.
Help in keeping things in scope, for example.
Do we agree on the definitions?
Rodolfo: definitions look fine.
Arle: +1
DavidF: will make another iteration of the charter.
=== 5/ XLIFF 2.0 (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking)
--- 5.1. Rodolfo has submitted XLIFF 2.0 work to SVN
a. Rules around contributing/editing
b. recommendations for Docbook tools (commercial and open source)
Bryan: Rodolfo, input on SVN and how to edit the documents?
Rodolfo: can write the main parts, Yves can work on the inline markup parts
Available on SVN.
I use eclipse and oXygen. Works fine.
Bryan: Rodolfo drives/edits/coordinates as needed.
Rodolfo: early schema is there. Could use the terminology feature as a
template for a module (just as an example).
DavidF: will the modules be in trunk?
Rodolfo: yes, trunk is the living doc
We can tag milestones as we go
We can use branches for alternatives if needed
--- 5.2. Yves updated his XLIFF 2.0 experimental extractor
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201107/msg00015.html)
Yves: experimental, tries to follow the current discussion/schema
Rodolfo: could add the schema draft to XLIFF validator
Yves: +1
---5.3. XLIFF 2.0 Technical work
Some features need to be taken over.
e.g. 1.2 " Enhanced Commenting Support"
Andrew to take ownership
For 1.4: Rodolfo: think it's already there in the draft schema (<skeleton>)
ACTION ITEM: all to look at proposed features and be ready to take ownership.
Yves: ok to discuss any topic? (or should we wait for the item in the list)
Bryan: fine to discuss anything (to keep the momentum)
Rodolfo: then start a thread and add to the wiki
Yves: +1
Bryan: make sure to keep the order of the proposals.
=== 6/ Current XLIFF business
--- 6.1. 2nd Annual XLIFF Symposium in Poland progress (Peter)
Bryan: Peter is not present, any input from anyone (about the symposium)?
Christian: remember special deal from Multilingual magazine to TC members.
=== 7/ New Business
- Rodolfo, Bryan, JoAnn will do XLIFF+DITA presentation as webinar (end
of this month)
-done
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