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Subject: Re: [xliff] Confirming regarding OASIS-ETSI cooperation invitation

Dear Jamie,

thanks for this note. I am responding in my capacity as Chair of XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC.
I believe that listing localization among other collaboration areas in the MOU reference mapping seems very appropriate (no issues with the proposed language).
Bryan should be able to give you an official TC position after the regular meeting on Sep 20.
Our SC consensus based on discussion last week (minutes not yet published) is that we are concerned with the IPR mode that the ISG LIS has to operate under, i.e. ETSI's only admissible FRAND policy. As ETSI LIS work on LISA OSCAR standards successors has potentially high impact on what XLIFF targets to standardize, the SC decided to tentatively explore the possibility of sending a TC liaison to participate in the ISG. Another issue with ETSI is that their mailing lists and minutes are not public and in fact our eventual liaison will need to follow ETSI confidentiality policy and obtain specific permission of the ISG for every particular disclosure.

I hope that this helps

Dr. David Filip
University of Limerick, Ireland
telephone: +353-6120-2781
mobile: +353-86-049-34-68
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mailto: david.filip@ul.ie

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 17:50, Jamie Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org> wrote:
OASIS has a standing cooperation agreement ("memorandum of understanding") with ETSI, the European regional de jure standards organization for telecommunications, which also increasingly is active or interested in other technology areas.  The MoU lists areas where OASIS and ETSI, and their respective work groups, look for possible of cooperation and collaboration.  It be reviewed here:  http://webapp.etsi.org/AgreementView/AgreementDetail.asp?AgrID=98

The current table listing agreed areas of collaboration is here: http://webapp.etsi.org/AgreementView/Mapping_tables/Mapping_OASIS.htm

Recently ETSI entered into arrangements with some members of the imminently-closing localization consortium LISA, to carry over certain LISA projects into a new ETSI working group:  http://ttt.org/oscarStandards/   Many of you will be aware of this via your own previous contacts with LISA.  ETSI has asked OASIS to add a section to the list of cooperation areas in our MoU, to indicate potential collaboration on this topic.  

Appended below is the draft addition which we propose to send back to ETSI as an consensual amendment.  It's not entirely clear to us what the work plan for ETSI's new workgroup ("ISG") will become, but they are just starting out, so that's not remarkable.  At a minimum, though, it seems likely that further maintenance or versioning of LISA's established elemental localization standards -- TMX, SRX, etc. -- will be managed by this new ETSI panel.

A number of professionals in the field, including LISA's last director of standards Arle Lommel and our own OAXAL TC chair Andrzej Zydron, have written persuasively (at least in my personal view) that the optimal right future for those elemental functions is as part of a broader integratable architecture.  So long as our TCs pursue that goal, it seems likely that continued interface with the LISA work product will be mutually beneficial.  

Please note:  (1)  Listing the topic in the MoU does not commit or require any TC to take any specific technical action regarding LISA or ETSI work.  Rather, it is simply a commitment to communicate.  
(2) Each OASIS TC also specifically may create a liaison to the workgroup, under our usual policies, at its option:  http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#tcliaison

Would any interested members please advise us within the next few days if they object to, or see any difficulties with, the proposed new language below?  Also, are there any specific messages or suggestions that we should pass along, institutionally as OASIS?  (Bearing in mind that all of our members also are free to comment in their own capacities.)

Thank you for your attention and consideration.  We very much appreciate your contributions to open data standards.

Cordially, JBC


Proposed area:

Proposed OASIS entries:

Proposed ETSI entries:
*  Localization Industry Standards (LIS) ISG 
James Bryce Clark, General Counsel
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society 


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