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Subject: XLIFF TC Call - Summary - Aug-07-2012
XLIFF TC Call Date: Tuesday, 07 August 2012, 11:00am - 12:00pm ET https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/905529225 === 1/ Roll call Present: Alan, Yves, Rodolfo, Ingo, Shirley, Bryan, Jungwoo, Tom, Kevin, Helena, Michael, Regrets: Christian, Klemens, Asanka === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 17 July 2012 meeting minutes: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201207/msg00034.html Bryan moves to accept the minutes Rodolfo seconds No objections === 3/ XLIFF 2.0 (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking) --- 1. Features proposed/discussed on the mailing list g. Proposed (by Yves) extension points https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201207/msg00024.html No extension points for attribute in inline element for now. Bryan: some representation guides I think recommend to use extensions there. Rodolfo: we can add the point in the schema and specification Bryan: second R to add the information in the schema/spec. Alan: for element any extension in source and target? Rodolfo: no we have no extension inside the content Alan: will look at our use cases (for example metaholder needed there) Rodolfo: why not at segment level? Alan: possible, but requires extra processing Rodolfo: allowing extension inside content can cause interoperability issue Bryan: maybe need to look at the purpose of extensions. ..For not anticipated features ..Or case of use of other vocabularies (like ITS). ..Maybe we need to be more liberal for location of the points Rodolfo: better to propose the feature to the TC so it becomes part of the standard Bryan: Right. Is extensions different from what I said? Rodolfo: more or less as you defined it. ..any other opposition to implement the changes? ..would the current proposal ok Alan? Alan: need to keep things open. Rodolfo: should we then allow extension everywhere? David: content is special, adding extensions makes things more difficult ..so having extensions there add complexity ..should propose the needed feature to the TC ..adding features inside content would be through modules. So, not close, just a bit more difficult to add. ..supports no extensions in content ..if something is missing in content, it should be proposed Rodolfo: none of the modules we have so far modifies content Bryan: processing expectations: this is key to the discussion ..maybe we can start with the proposed list and keep the discussion on the extension in content Alan: yes, we can start with that, and explore options. Bryan: agreement then: Rodolfo to update the schema/spec. ACTION ITEM: Rodolfo to update the schema/spec. for extension point FS attribute: Rodolfo: BTW, need also info about the 'fs' attribute Bryan: yes. will work on this. Rodolfo: original idea was to add it to all elements Bryan: see https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/Feature/Add%20optional%20format%20attribute%20for%20quick%20at-a-glance%20review Rodolfo: need agreement before I make a global change (including in inline element) Bryan: we explicitly said 'fs' must not be used for other application than the described one Yves: adding in inline should be ok Rodolfo: sub-set of elements is limited, so re-purposing the value would be difficult Bryan: Fredrik proposed to exclude non-formatting elements (like scripts) Rodolfo: values should be just the element name and required values ..but we need more than that, like for FONT, etc. Bryan: good point Rodolfo: notion of complementary attribute, what do we do about that? Bryan: idea was to possibly have a second attribute to hold addition values ..not sure it was a requirement ..like Rodolfo idea to limit list to stand-alone elements (B, etc.) ..So I need to review the proposal ACTION ITEM: Bryan to modify the fs proposal === 4/ Sub Committee Reports --- 1. Inline text (Yves) Yves: Nothing new to report since last meeting. ..Next SC call is next week. ..Will work on adding bidi attribute to structural item later --- 2. XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC Charter (David) David: Ballot on mandate ..mandate has been extended. Will be able to prepare symposium ..And work on liaisons About the symposium: Good momentum, but a bit short on presentation proposal So maybe should see the event as a working event Would like to have TC members as 'feature owner' For example for the inline markup, for example from Yves or Fredrik Same for other features, like metaholder, etc. Most critical point is to have a strong program. Submit papers or push others to do so. Bryan: what about a panel on the 2.0 state? David: sure, but would like to see the feature-owners to take ownership of their work and present it. ..maybe what worked fine in the 1st symposium doesn't work as much now Bryan: note that we have a face-to-face meeting proposed on the 15th (Monday) Please people tell me if you could attend. David: we should have two rooms available (main and for break-out sessions) Bryan: what about dialing capabilities? David: we should be able to do a GTM sessions as needed === 5/ Current XLIFF business 1. Comment list entry: Mailing List for TIPP Implementers https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-comment/201207/msg00000.html === 6/ New Business Bryan: any new business? Rodolfo: we need to work on the Charter ..still talks about 1.0, etc. ..needs to be updated. ..then a long voting process. This is needed before 2.0 is proposed. Bryan: good point. -adjourned
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