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Subject: RE: [xliff] lowermost

Hi Yves and David,

Given my experience with XML I think I would vote for innermost, FWIW.


From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] on behalf of Yves Savourel [ysavourel@enlaso.com]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 7:54 PM
To: 'Dr. David Filip'
Cc: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] lowermost

Hi David, all,

This is an XML context, not a mathematic one, and in XML context innermost is used more commonly by far.

“xml lowermost” Google=337,00 hits, Bing=6,020 hits
“xml innermost” Google=2,460,000 hits, Big=2,170,000 hits.


From: Dr. David Filip [mailto:David.Filip@ul.ie]
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 7:04 AM
To: Yves Savourel
Cc: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [xliff] lowermost

Yves, I think that lowermost is exactly what we mean in the specification

lowermost/and uppermost are used in mathematics and set theory to set bounds on (partially) ordered sets.
An xml document is a partially ordered set of elements so lowermost of enclosing group or file (or similar) makes perfect sense.
Lowermost is also in line with speaking about higher and lower levels in an  <xliff> and <file> being higher and segment and sub-segment being lower..
This said, it seems that lowermost and innermost are used as synonyms in describing xml structures. So I do not mind really if others feel compelled to use innermost.


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On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com<mailto:ysavourel@enlaso.com>> wrote:
Hi editors, all

The specification uses several times the term "lowermost". I don't think it's correct. It's another way to say "lowest" and
basically means "the one at the bottom".

I believe we really mean "innermost" in all the occurrences I've seen in the specification. (but people should check).

We should replace the term as it may lead to misunderstanding.


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