RE: [xliff] Question on one of the Validation module constraint

[Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>]

More thinking about this:

> This is an unfortunate ambiguous agreement between singular 
> and plural and should probably say:  "a custom rule defined 
> by an attribute from any namespace"
> The original intent was one custom rule defined by 
> one custom attribute.

What if a custom rule needs several bits of information?
(after all several of the standard rules need several attributes)
Maybe allowing several attributes is better after all.

But then there is no way for a processor not implementing the custom rule to know if the rule follows the constraint or not.
But it's a bit pointless to try to validate whether a rule is valid or not when it's custom if you don't implement it anyway.
So maybe it's good enough like it is...

Just thinking aloud.
-ys


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan King [mailto:ryanki@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 2:54 PM
To: Yves Savourel; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] Question on one of the Validation module constraint

I was confused by the formatting in your mail, so I went to look at the spec...

-  Exactly one of the following attributes: 
	-  isPresent
	-  isNotPresent
 	-  startsWith
	-  endsWith
	-  a custom rule defined by attributes from any namespace
   is REQUIRED in any one <rule> element.

I think there is a conflict here with " Exactly *one* of the following attributes" and "a custom rule defined by *attributes*..."

This is an unfortunate ambiguous agreement between singular and plural and should probably say:  "a custom rule defined by an
attribute from any namespace"

The original intent was one custom rule defined by one custom attribute.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Yves Savourel
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 1:32 PM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [xliff] Question on one of the Validation module constraint

Hi all,

(This is not a comment for the Candidate Draft).

I'm looking at possibly implementing the Validation module but I have a question with regard to one of the constraints:

In section "5.8.4.3 rule" we have:

[[
Exactly one of the following attributes:
- isPresent
- isNotPresent
- startsWith
- endsWith
- a custom rule defined by attributes from any namespace is REQUIRED in any one <rule> element.
]]

I see how I can check for the presence of only one of the Validation attributes.
But how can I check that only a custom rule is specify?

It seems I need to check that only one or more custom attributes are present in the <rule>.
But can the custom attributes be in different namespaces or must they be in the same one?

I tend to think "any namespace" (singular) means they must be in the same namespace.
Is that correct?

Thanks,
-yves







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