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Subject: Re: [xliff] [xliff-omos] ITS rules file - Re: [xliff-omos] New XLIFF 2.1 Editors' Draft, 06 September 2016; Fwd: [xliff] Version Control Commit by DavidFilip

Hi David and all,

Am 11.09.2016 um 23:18 schrieb Felix Sasaki <felix@sasakiatcf.com>:

Hi David and all,

Am 11.09.2016 um 16:06 schrieb David Filip <david.filip@adaptcentre.ie>:

Felix, it depends..
If all features are covered by the module. It would be more like Localization Note.
If there are some features covered by the module (and core) but still need to introduce some ITSM attributes, annotations etc. Then it would be like Terminology..
Let's look into a short editors meeting on Wednesday

As said below I am here - feel free to ping me on Skype.



to be prepared for the next XLIFF TC meeting, basically to see if there's a chance to have a csd01/ csprd01 ballot in the next TC meeting.

OK, I can all after 3 p.m. CEST on Wednesday. Wrt to what you wrote in this thread

ITS Size Restriction - Fredrik

I would suggest not to do this - it is not on Yves’ list of implementation commitment, see below, and nobody has expressed interest in this within the last year, I think ...



Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:

Von: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
Betreff: [xliff] XLIFF 2.1 - ITS support
Datum: 23. April 2016 um 14:41:49 MESZ
An: "XLIFF Main List" <xliff@lists.oasis-open.org>


This is a note for the TC members currently working on the ITS module.

Just in case you would like to try the still-under-development implementation of some ITS data categories for XLIFF 2.1 you can find
the latest build of the Okapi XLIFF 2 library (including Lynx) here: 

At this point it is supposed to support:

- Translate
- Terminology
- Domain
- Text Analysis
- Provenance
- Preserve Space
- Localization Quality Issue
- MT Confidence
- Allowed Characters

Some of these data categories are not fully tested or implemented yet.

There is a -its command in Lynx that generates test result files comparable to the one we used in ITS 2.0. It's not implemented for
all supported data categories yet. BUT, doing this is a lot of work and there is no other tool as far as I know that does it too,
and therefore nothing to compare these results against. At this point I'm not sure it's worth the time to continue that command.

To try ITS support in general you can try to validate 2.1 files with some ITS metadata in them.

Or you can try to use the library directly:
The XLIFF objects that may have ITS attributes implement the IWithITSAttributes interface, and the ones that may have ITS elements
implement the IWithITSGroups interface. You can access the annotator references with getAnnotatorRef() on any of the XLIFF objects
where it may be valid.

You can find examples in the test code here:

Bug reports and feedback are welcome.


Cheers dF

On Sep 11, 2016 15:34, "Felix Sasaki" <felix@sasakiatcf.com> wrote:
Thanks, David. A quick question: is this in principle like the „Terminology“ data category? I then could use that as a blue print for editing.

I’ll be on travel now until Tuesday evening - maybe we can talk on Wednesday?


Am 11.09.2016 um 15:19 schrieb David Filip <david.filip@adaptcentre.ie>:

Felix, wrt the external resource it must not introduce ITSM methods because these already exist in the Resource data module. It should define the mapping to the module.. I hope this helps otherwise we should try and talk on Monday.. BTW I have to leave the office by 17:15 on Monday so we should talk in the afternoon but before 17:15
Cheers dF

On Sep 11, 2016 14:06, "Yves Savourel" <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote:
Hi Felix,

> The rules file with rules or explanations - as applicable - for all data categories is now here
> https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff/trunk/xliff-21/schemas/its-rules.xml

It seems two selector values in the its-rules.xml file are missing a closing ']':

<!-- Rules for Terminology -->
<its:termRule selector="//xlf2:mrk[@type='term' and @ref" termInfoRefPointer="@ref"/>

<!-- Rules for Language Information -->
<its:langRule selector="//xlf2:*[@xml:lang" langPointer="@xml:lang"/>


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