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Subject: [xmlvoc] Notes (rough) from Barcelona meeting of XMLvoc


Greetings!

I hope that everyone returned safe and sound from the very productive 
meetings in Barcelona!

Attached are the very rough and non-edited notes from the XMLvoc meeting 
(very close to being stream of comments, some relevant, some less so, 
others just idle tapping of my fingers on the keyboard, will have to 
await Holger's return from holiday to sort all that out) ;-) From 
Holger's editing will emerge the minutes of the meeting. Corrections, 
etc., should be posted here for Holger to fold into what will eventually 
emerge as the minutes of the meeting.

Personal comment: I found the actual working of the group together on 
the list of possible XML "topics" from Holger, as prompted by Lars 
Marius one of the more productive episodes in any topic map meeting I 
have attended. Would like to see more of that sort of activity in the 
future. Kudos to both Holger and Lars Marius!

Patrick

-- 
Patrick Durusau
Director of Research and Development
Society of Biblical Literature
pdurusau@emory.edu

XML-Voc Meeting: Barcelona 24 May 2002

>>>> Approval of minutes: approved

Thomas
Steve Pepper
Holger Rath
Bernard
Peter
Lars
Mary
Motomu Naico
Patrick Durusau

Oasis refused PSI address: said to use URN scheme. 

SteveP: URN is not preferred solution, need something that can be resolved. 

Holger: answer from Karl - concerned with maintaining current practices and not provide something different for this TC, no decision yet, other TCs use namespace at OASIS, URN:OASIS: 

Peter: difference is that for PSI is a new paradigm in the work of TCs, we need one that is not needed by others. 

Holger: could OASIS provide a general mechanism for PSIs

SteveP: limited number of domains owed by OASIS, CGI Open could use psi.cgiopen.org

Lars: cost is virtually nill

SteveP: this is the core of what OASIS means, should go back and insist

Holger: joint from various TCs? general issue, asking for psi.xml.org

Peter: would only have XMLVoc at this domain

Bernard: but don't want to centralize so why have this specific domain name

Lars: should explain our requirement

The three chairs agree to ask for psi.xml.org from OASIS

Peter: agree that XMLVoc would use this for XML vocabulary

>>>> Lars will write something up to submit to OASIS.

****Results of voting on requirements

8 votes, 7 yes, 1 no

fits requirements, so approved.

couple of notes or comments (SteveP, Lars)

triggered next item, use cases

****Use Cases

**************************************************************************************************
**************************************************************************************************
Summary of main use cases, reconstructed after the meeting

1. design of ontology

2. interchange of information

3. syndication of content -- push/pull

4. "OSI" layer approach - educational use, to be explained by XMLvoc

5. SteveP: providing a vocabulary where pre-existing classification does not exist - and provide a validation mechanism (specific PSIs, providing a model for how to construct PSI, validation of a proof of concept)

6. Sellable XML ontology with PSI for binding points

7. reuse reduces institutional investment costs

8. XML Portal
***************************************************************************************************
***************************************************************************************************
Return to the meeting minutes:

**> below marks major use cases

SteveP: use cases should be attractive to OASIS members

Free XML Tools ---> 

     application, 

**> design of ontology, 

**> interchange of information, 

     (Holger, to what detail should it go?), (Steve, exchange of information in practice?) Lars, has spoken to Robin about merging information, link websites, 

**> syndication of content -- push/pull

**> "OSI" layer approach - educational use, to be explained by XMLvoc 

Peter: proof of concept, demonstrate how it would work for a public that already understands the vocabulary

**> SteveP: providing a vocabulary where pre-existing classification does not exist - and provide a validation mechanism (specific PSIs, providing a model for how to construct PSI, validation of a proof of concept)

SteveP: more compelling use cases than just syndication in general, updating resources? distinguish between push and pull? easy to collect and easy to send? 

Peter: identify to collect? first step before gathering

Holger: think about proceedings of this conference, rather than the keywords used by the authors, 

SteveP: really about establishing controlled vocabularies

Easier update of ontologies (push/pull)

Reuse of existing ontology to improve metadata - (used Free XML tools to mine keywords to make them more precise)

Lars: can make use of existing metadata

Make keywords useful for conference proceedings : establish classes and let others define the actual terms 

Simplification of keywords: handling of XML conferences

Classification of XML conference papers

**> Sellable XML ontology with PSI for binding points

**> reuse reduces institutional investment costs

Use to discover and refine the existing data

Bernard: cost of time and investment for building such an ontology will be supported by this committee, vendors will use, Microsoft sells keywords

Mary: a little like DocBook, but we are giving away more data, one or two companies write a test suite and then given away, but what about another company making money on it

SteveP: open, distributed knowledgebase about XML, a framework of published subjects about XML for OASIS, vendors do their topicmaps and submit to OASIS -- XML Omnicense

**> XML Portal

SteveP: Improved access to information about XML

SteveP: Open Directory -- finer grained categories for listing

SteveP: Provide useful fine grained categories for public classification systems

Bernard: no listing for abbrs resolution -- "Mr. Check" "I Finger"

Mary: if setup, have tons of links that are disorganized, would help organize web portals

SteveP: is use case what we want for what we will use or what others will use our work for: 

Holger: ad hoc online dictionary for XML terms

****************End of Use Cases*************

2 classes of use cases

a. for our work -- marked with asterick

b. work by others

***************

Holger will start a use case document and then decide where the use cases go

Lars: use case will be a set of published subjects

Bernard: what would need an ontology for, should look at W3C similar efforts

DAML-OIL discussion.

Cover pages: has anyone looked at it?

Bernard: should look at XML categories look like in OpenDirectory

Lars: let's start working on a classification

Holger: looked at key words, 8 pages from the confence proceedings

******

Lars - SteveP -> this is the ragbag of terms

Lars - find topic types

topic types and occurrence types derived from Holger's List from the conference:

TT = topic type

TT: Standard = Technology = W3C recommendation
TT: Organization
TT: Product/Tool
TT: Language
TT: Application, e.g. ebXML
TT: Protocol
TT: Character encoding
TT: Vocabulary (how it relates, application of a schema)
TT: Schema languages
TT: Data model
TT: Application Domain (industry)
TT: Query language
TT: Markup language
TT: Programming language
TT: Platform (OS) and software
TT: Tool category
TT: Person 
TT: Standards body 
TT: Vendor
TT: Service Provider
TT: Service (professional services)
TT: Standard stage
TT: committee
TT: project
TT: Users
TT: Company

Oc = Occurrence Type

Oc: date of birth
Oc: current version number
Oc: email addresses
Oc: smail addresses
Oc: homepage - web address
Oc: download location
Oc: spec text
Oc: definition
Oc: abstract
Oc: bio
Oc: fact sheet
Oc: charter
Oc: dates
Oc: description
Oc: logo
Oc: signature
Oc: copyright status
Oc: license
Oc: price
Oc: privacy
Oc: press release
Oc: report on
Oc: assessment of
Oc: web page
Oc: definition

********Roadmap to Montreal*********

show of hands on planning to attend Extreme Markup: TC meetings on 10th of August 2002 

Meeting after Extreme, XML 2002 in Baltimore

Lars will remail the information on topic map IRC

Will allow calls to meeting, but being flexible on it.

Agreed to a com call for 1 hour in Published Subjects TC

Holger: Homework

1. Clustering of use cases

2. Look at topics and occurrences

3. Can look at Cover pages 

4. Proposal for associations are welcome

5. Look at resources (internal or external) to see how well (or not well) the sites fit the topic and occurrence types listed above

Adjourned:


************Holger's paper starts here, no further minutes****************


Concept hierarchies for XML Europe 2002 orenge model
Author: H. Holger Rath, 19-04-2002

NOTE: concepts on same level in hierarchy should have a similarity of 0.5 (if this is not automatically calculated by orenge)


	character code = character encoding
		ISO 8859 
		ASCII
		UNICODE
			UTF-8
			UTF-16
		EBCDIC
	Metadata Standard = Metadata
		vocabulary = metadata set
				published subjects
				ParlML
				XMLvoc
				GeoLang
				Dublin Core = DC = DublinCore
				RSS
		subject classification
			taxonomy
		data dictionary
		thesaurus
		Complex Metadata
			RDF = resource description framework
			XTM = XML topic maps = topic maps = HyTM = ISO 13250 = ISO/IEC 13250 = 13250
				ISO Reference Model
				Standard Application Model
				merging
				topic map graph
		Index = indexing
	Document language
		structured document
		RTF = Rich text format
		Markup Language = Markup
			TEI = Text encoding initiative
			HTML
			XHTML
			XML = extensible markup language
				well-formed = well-formedness
				namespace
			SGML = Standard Generalized Markup Language = ISO 8879
			ASN.1
			Grammar = DTD = Document type definition = document type declaration
			Reporting language
				Extensible Business Reporting Language = xbrl
	Layout Language = Style Language = Formatting Language
		Transformation Language = Conversion
			Legacy data conversion
			XSLT = XSL(T)
			OmniMark
			up-translation
			down-translation
			word conversion
		XSL
		CSS
		DSSSL
		fop
		pdf
		postscript
	Schema Language = Schema
		XML Schema
		Relax
		Relax NG
		TREX
		SOX
		DSDL
		Schematron
		XCSL
		DAML
		OIL
		DAML+OIL
		TMCL
		RDF-S = RDFS = RDF schema
		Semantic validation
	API
		DOM
		JDBC
		ODBC
		SAX
		VBA = Visual Basic for applications
	Query Language = Query
		SQL
		TMQL
		RDF Query
		XML Query language
			XQuery
			XML Query
			XQuilt
	Multimedia = Multi Media
		Link language = linking language
			Hytime
			XLink
			XPointer
			XPath
		Animation
		SMIL
		mpeg
		Graphic Standard
			CGM
			WebCGM
			SVG
	AI = Artificial Intelligence
		Cased-Based Reasoning = CBR
	Programming Language
		Java = J2EE
		Python
		Visual Basic
		C++
		C#
		Scripting language
			perl
			java script
			php
	electronic Data interchange = data interchange = EDI
		EDIFACT
		ebxml
		encoding
		decoding
	Protocol
		wireless protocol
			gms
			gprs
		syndication = web syndication
			ice = ice standard
		program communication = 
			SOAP
			web services
			WSDL = web services description language
			UDDI
			Jini
			.NET
			COM
			CORBA
			RMI = remote message invocation
			RPC = remote procedure call
			XML-RPC
	Modeling = Modeling language
		ontology
		uml = universal modeling language = xmi
		mof
		MDA = Model-Driven Architecture
	Security
		PKI
		XML Key Management Specification = XKMS
		XML-DSIG = XML Digital Signature
Tool
	Web Tool
		Web Server
			Apache
		CGI
		Application Server
			tomcat = Catalina
			JSP = Java Server Pages
			ASP
			Servlet
		Portal = Web Portal = Gateway
			Business Portal
			Citizen Portal
			Knowledge Portal = Knowledge Gateway
	Wireless Tool = Mobile Tool
		Bluetooth
		semantic web
	Database
		relational database = RDB = RDBMS
			Oracle
		hierarchical database = XML Database
			tamino
			excelon
			Ixiasoft
	Search = Search engine = query engine = find technology = information retrieval
		full text search = full text = full-text search = full-text = fulltext search = fulltext
	Text processing
		Microsoft word = MS word
	Navigation
		browser = web browser
			Netscape = Netscape navigator
			Microsoft internet explorer = internet explorer = MS IE = IE
	XML tool
		parser = sax processor
			xerces
		xslt processor
			xalan
		xlink engine
			x2x
Application
	e-government
		govtalk
		mireg = Managing Information Resources for e-Government
		e-Government Interoperability Framework = eGIF
	Patent = Patent Office
		European Patent Office = EPO
		Japan Patent Office = JPO
		United States Patent and Trademark Office = USPTO
		World Intellectual Property Organization = WIPO
		E-PCT
	Learning = eLearning = e-learning = education
		Automatic Learning
	Logistics
		CALS
	Publishing
		electronic publishing = electronic publication
		multi-channel publishing
		Commercial Publishing
			legal publishing = legal publisher
			stm publishing = stm publisher
		Corporate Publishing
			Technical Documentation = Tecdoc = manuals
				Software documentation = software manuals
					docbook DTD = docbook
	Information Management = Data Management
		Technical information system = TIS
		Content Management
			Content Management System = CMS
		Link Management
			Link Management System
		Content Structure Management
		Distributed Information Management = Distributed Systems = Distributed Information System
		Knowledge Management = KM
			Knowledge Management System
				empolis knowledge suite = orenge = k42 = eks
			Corporate Memory
	Health = Healthcare
		Patient record
			electronic patient record
Organization
	W3C = World wide web consortium = World-wide web consortium
	ISO = International Standards Organization = International Organization for Standardization
	OASIS = Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards
	OMG = Object Management Group
	European Standardisation Committee = CEN
	IDEAlliance = GCA = graphics communication association


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