RE: [xri-editors] Relative cross-references

["Lindelsee, Mike" <mlindels@visa.com>]

I also find dots as a substitute for whitespace to be confusing.  I think it is reasonable to have a substitute character for whitespace, but it probably shouldn't be a character that we already use.  I think overloading the semantics of the characters already used in XRIs will introduce unnecessary complication.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McAlpin [mailto:dave.mcalpin@epokinc.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:35 PM
> To: 'Drummond Reed'; 'Wachob, Gabe'; xri-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: 'Veizades, John'; 'Marc LeMaitre'; jerry.kindall@epok.net
> Subject: RE: [xri-editors] Relative cross-references
> 
> 
> I see. So the parens in the example xri:+(.table.of.contents) 
> are somewhat
> comparable to quotes, and have the standard cross-reference meaning of
> "understand this as a single element".
> 
> I'm still a little uncomfortable with dots as a substitute 
> for whitespace
> here, but for some reason I'm fine with that concept in the = 
> namespace.
> =John.Doe seems perfectly reasonable, partly because we're 
> used to seeing
> John.Doe in mailto URIs, but also because I expect the = 
> namespace to be
> flat and consequently I'm not tempted to read the dot as a point of
> delegation. I don't think I have the same expectation of 
> flatness in the +
> namespace, especially since we have the example of +flowers.rose.
> 
> I'm still wondering if this is unnecessarily complicated for 
> the examples
> section.
> 
> Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drummond.reed@onename.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: Dave McAlpin; Wachob, Gabe; xri-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: Veizades, John; Marc LeMaitre; jerry.kindall@epok.net
> Subject: RE: [xri-editors] Relative cross-references
> 
> Funny you should ask, Dave. I was just about to use a relative
> cross-reference to illustrate your answer to the last 
> question. As I've
> studied the use of XRIs, esp. in the context for XDI, the issue of
> "substituting for white space" has increased in importance.
> 
> For example, if you want to reference the concept widely known in
> English as "table of contents", you can't escape the reality 
> that it is
> identified by 3 English words. No one knows it by the term 
> "contents" or
> even "tablecontents". It is "table of contents".
> 
> If you scrunch it down to "TableOfContents" or "tableofcontents", you
> lose information. You don't actually know the original three 
> words. And,
> from a semantic mapping standpoint, you lose the absolutely critical
> information that "table of contents" is actually linked to 
> the concepts
> of "table" and "contents". 
> 
> So what's the best way to properly express this as an XRI?
> 
> 	xri:+(.table.of.contents)
> 
> In other words, a relative XRI used as a cross-reference 
> because what it
> does is link three separate concepts (table, of, and 
> contents) into one
> concept.
> 
> I've got several other use cases as well (some of which I 
> posted on the
> discussion thread when I raised the whole issue of relative
> cross-references) but I think this makes the point. I've got 
> to take off
> for a meeting and will be offline for a few hours.
> 
> =Drummond  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McAlpin [mailto:dave.mcalpin@epokinc.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: 'Dave McAlpin'; Drummond Reed; 'Wachob, Gabe';
> xri-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: 'Veizades, John'; Marc LeMaitre; jerry.kindall@epok.net
> Subject: [xri-editors] Relative cross-references
> 
> I see we're now allowing relative cross-references. I 
> remember we talked
> about this and I guess we decided to allow them, but I'm not at all
> clear
> what they mean. Does someone have an actual use case in mind?
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
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