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Subject: Minutes:Joint XRI & XDI TC Telecon 10AM PT Thursday 2007-11-15


Following are the minutes of a joint unofficial telecon of the XRI and XDI
TCs at:

Date:  Thursday, 15 November 2007 USA
Time:  10:00AM - 12:00PM Pacific Time

Event Description:
Weekly unofficial joint call of the XRI and XDI Technical Committees.

ATTENDING

Les Chasen
Wil Tan
Victor Grey 
Markus Sabadello
Drummond Reed
Marty Schleiff
John Bradley 
Gabe Wachob

REGRETS
Kermit Snelson

GUESTS
Abbie Barbir, Nortel
Dee Schur, OASIS


AGENDA

1) DISCUSSION ABOUT JOINING THE OASIS ID-TRUST MEMBER SECTION

The XRI TC has been invited to join the ID-Trust Member Section. More info
about it is at:

	http://oasis-idtrust.org/

ID-Trust MS Steering Committee member Abbie Barbir of Nortel and OASIS
ID-Trust Coordinator Dee Schur joined us to explain more about this
opportunity and answer questions from TC members. Following are notes on the
discussion:

* ID-Trust Member Section used to be the PKI Member Section

* Currently has the EKI, DKMI, DSS TCs -- all PKI-related.

* The ID-Trust Member Section is currently actively involved in pursuing two
new TCs (besides the XRI TC) that will broaden the scope even more.

* Member Sections have their own self-governance.

* The TC joining a Member Section and members of the TC joining a Member
Section are separate. Each makes their own election. A Member joins a Member
Section by their primary representative electing to join the Member Section.


* Members of a TC are encouraged to join a Member Section because once they
do, a portion of their dues (currently 35%) goes to the Member Section.

* These funds can go towards promotion, interop events, etc.

* The biggest benefit will be in helping adoption. Abbie believes we have
built a strong foundation and that there is much that can be built on it as
we grow the adoption curve.

* The more attraction that the ID-Trust Member Section draws, the better for
us as a TC to be a member. A recent example was the ID-Trust-sponsored
workshop at Catalyst Europe in Barcelona.

* The mechanics of the TC joining are simple to hold a vote. If the vote is
positive, the Member Section Steering Committee votes to approve the
membership. Then TC becomes represented on the Member Section page.

* The Member Section is developing an online focus area in which we can
participate.

* There are not regular meetings of a Member Section, however the Steering
Committee meets regularly.

* The Steering Committee helps chairs of member TCs with feedback,
promotion, etc.

* Steering Committee members are on staggered terms (the next election is in
April). Once the TC joins, it opens an avenue for discussion with the
Steering Committee members.

* If the Member Section has an event, it provides an opportunity for
different TC members to attend, promote their work, interact, etc.

* TC members also have the opportunity to run for the Steering Committee.

* The upcoming NIST event would be the first opportunity to do a
presentation about our work.

* Abbie and Dee will be attending IIW.

* A large security event is planned for London next fall.

# DEE will send information about a ballot to the TC list.


After Abbie and Dee left the call, the TC members discussed the following
points.

* The concern that some TC members have had that this might cause XRI to be
associated with PKI has largely abated given the other TCs that ID-Trust is
trying to attract and the benefits of membership.

* The main benefit is the exposure, and the fact that the ID-Trust Member
Section is building lots of momentum.

* John made the point that when it comes to XDI, the relationship with PKI
will be a good thing.

* Marty feels that affiliating with PKI infrastructure is not a bad thing
because many enterprises need and use it.

* Drummond believes the timing is good as it will help amplify interest in
XRI Resolution 2.0 and the public review and OASIS Standard vote cycle.


The consensus of the members on the call was that we should proceed to a
vote concurrent with the XRI Resolution 2.0 vote.

# DRUMMOND will post the ballot.


2) REVIEW OF XRI RESOLUTION 2.0 WORKING DRAFT 11 RELEASE CANDIDATE 1

RC1 was uploaded on Wednesday night. The links are:

PDF (this is the suggested version to open for the call):
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/26114/xri-resolution-v2.0-
wd-11-rc1.pdf 

WORD:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/26113/xri-resolution-v2.0-
wd-11-rc1.doc 

All substantive changes are marked with comments (13 in total). All are
limited to a few sentences except for the addition of one short section
(5.4). 

On the telecon we walked through all 13 commented revisions and reviewed the
wording (catching several typos). There was consensus on all of these after
the slight corrections made on the call. Drummond thanked Kermit and John in
particular for their close scrutiny of this draft and John's and Steve's
persistence in making sure all aspects of the synonym and Redirect/Ref
processing architecture were tightly documented.

# DRUMMOND to post release candidate 2, with comments removed, in
preparation for a vote.


3) COMMITTEE DRAFT 02 VOTE

There was consensus we should schedule the Committee Draft vote starting
Friday. The only question was whether it should run for the mimumum - 7 days
-- or extend for 10 or 11 days so it goes beyond the Thanksgiving holiday in
the U.S. 

# DRUMMOND to check with Mary McRae about any effect this timing decision
would make on commencing the public review by December 1, and to get wording
of the Committee Draft and Public Review ballots.

# DRUMMOND to post the ballots for both.


4) UPDATING THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE ON XRI

We discussed that since the new spec non-normatively references the
Wikipedia XRI page, TC members should make sure that relevant resources that
spec readers may wish to find there (examples, additional documentation,
open source projects, etc.) are posted. We will discuss this further on the
next telecon.


5) PREPARATIONS FOR IIW

Fall IIW is approaching fast:

	http://iiw.windley.com/wiki/Workshop_2007b 

The XRI and XDI TCs have been asked to prepare a one-pager for the
introductory sections on Monday, December 3. 

# DRUMMOND to prepare a first draft.

We also briefly discussed other sessions we might like to have, including a
tutorial on XRI and an in-depth tech session on XRI Resolution 2.0. We will
discuss that in more detail on our next telecon.


6) NEXT TELECON

Due to the Thanksgiving holiday in the U.S., and as a celebration of XRI
Resolution 2.0 reaching final, we will not hold a telecon next week. Our
next call will be at 10AM PT, Thursday, November 29.































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