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Subject: Minutes: XRI TC Telecon 8-9AM PT Thursday 2008-06-19
Following are the minutes of the unofficial telecon of the XRI TC at: Date: Thursday, 19 June 2008 USA Time: 8:00AM - 9:00PM Pacific Time ATTENDING Peter Davis Gabe Wachob Marty Schleiff Nat Sakimura John Bradley Drummond Reed Nika Jones Markus Sabadello AGENDA 1) THANK YOU TO GABE AND WELCOME TO PETER AS NEW CO-CHAIR The TC gave a round a deep thanks to Gabe for his five years of service as co-chair, and a warm welcome to Peter for stepping into thos shoes. (Post meeting update: the ballot officially closed at 7PM ET Thursday.) 2) UPDATE ON COMMUNICATIONS RE THE XRI VOTE The OASIS News carried a short article on the results of the vote and Drummond & Gabe sent a thank you to all voters. Several voters wrote back to thank us in turn and encourage the dialog with the W3C TAG. 3) WIKIPEDIA PAGE ON XRI Jamie Clark was not able to join us on updating the licensing statements on the XRI page on Wikipedia, however Drummond talked with him later in the day and he is working on this issue and will report next steps to the TC soon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XRI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Extensible_Resource_Identifier 4) COMMUNICATIONS WITH W3C TAG Stuart Williams, TAG co-chair, sent a message to Drummond and Gabe proposing next steps. Peter and Drummond sent an initial response. The TAG's message suggested the first four goals below, which we confirmed and added a fifth since this issue has been raised in TAG minutes and also on the Wikipedia page referenced above. a) Understand the differences between the final XRI 2.0 specs and the TAG's review in 2005. b) To develop a shared understanding of the motivating use cases that XRIs are designed to address. c) To develop a shared understanding of the adequacy/inadequacy of existing URI schemes to address those needs. d) To put on the public record points of mutual agreement or disagreement, particularly those that either party believes to be unresolvable. e) Address the licensing concerns regarding XRI. Stuart's message suggested and Peter's reply concurred that perhaps subgroups might want to form within both groups to pursue this discussion. Marty volunteered for to be part of this subgroup. He has been working on use cases to contribute to this conversation but needs permission to contribute these. Gabe also volunteered contingent on his availability. (Update: Les Chasen was not available to attend the call but also volunteered to be part of this subgroup.) There was also a proposal that one person from the XRI TC and the W3C TAG to co-chair these telecons. Drummond nominated Peter for this role. We discussed the scheduling for the first telecon. Due to schedules the week of July 7 is probably the first good week. # PETER will follow through with Stuart Williams to suggest this scheduling. In terms of preparation, we agreed that the following items should ideally be ready for the first telecon: a) A summary of changes to XRI 2.0 since the TAGs review in 2005. b) Motivating use cases. c) Documentation of licensing and IPR. Work has already begun on these; no specific action items were assigned yet but will be by the next call. 5) NON-NORMATIVE DELIVERABLE RE ESSENTIAL DIFFERENCES OF XRI A key component of discussions with the W3C TAG will be the essential differences of XRI with respect to: a) http(s) URIs, b) URNs, and c) other URI schemes. Some OASIS voters also suggested the TC publish a non-normative document on this subject in our next round of specs. Peter agreed that we need such a document, as does Drummond. On question of new deliverable, John Bradley pointed out that there have also been suggestions that we break out XRDS as a separate spec. This would help support profiles of XRDS such as XRDS Simple. http://xrds-simple.net/core/1.0/ Marty pointed out that the SAML specs distinguished between the token (schema) format and the protocols and defined these in separate specs. This helped with the adoption of SAML. Drummond also agreed that modularization is a good thing. John brought up the question about whether section 6, URL-based XRDS resolution, should be in a separate document too. This was less clear -- we need to examine this. 6) CALL SCHEDULE Peter will not be able to attend the next two telecons. Since Drummond will be at Burton Catalyst next week, we will skip next week's telecon and hold our next telecon in two weeks, Thursday July 3. # DRUMMOND to remind Les Chasen at NeuStar to adjust the telecon conference time. (DONE - and thank you to NeuStar for hosting our calls.)
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