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Subject: Minutes: XRI TC Telecon 8-9AM PT Thursday 2008-07-10
Following are the minutes for the unofficial telecon of the XRI TC at: Date: Thursday, 10 July 2008 USA Time: 8:00AM - 9:00PM Pacific Time ATTENDING John Bradley Bill Barnhill Markus Sabadello Marty Schleiff Drummond Reed Jeff Hodges Nika Jones AGENDA 1) STANDING RULE BALLOT TC Administrator Mary McRae has suggested we have a ballot on the following Standing Rule in order to formalize our informal meeting schedule: "Standing Rule: Does the TC wish to adopt a standing rule to conduct regular business only by electronic ballot, without Meetings, with the exception of Meetings called for a special purpose with a minimum of 15 calendar days notice?" # DRUMMOND to post the ballot. 2) W3C TAG TELECON REVIEW Our primary agenda item was to recap takeaways from last week's telecon and discuss our ideas for how best to proceed with the TAG. http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xri/XriTcW3cTag Drummond noted that in a post-briefing last week, Paul Trevithick had said that one area he would like to discuss with the TAG is the need for a solution to resolvable structured identifiers needed by the Higgins Project to reference data across contexts. He and others at the Higgins Project are spearheading an effort to specify a uniform way to do this using either XRIs or Cool URIs (as used for Linked Data). This effort is called Universal Data Identifier (UDI): http://parity.com/udi Jeff felt it was mostly an educational telecon, and suggested the next step should be to ellicit more questions from the TAG so as to continue this education. Drummond noted the "worldview problem", i.e., that the layer of abstraction that XRI is designed for is currently very foreign to the TAG's way of thinking, so it may take much more work than we might have expected for the TAG to understand it. John suggested that we ask the TAG go on record answering the question, "What is the bar for producing a new URI scheme?" They suggest some requirements in http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#URI-scheme and http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/URNsAndRegistries-50.xml which it appears that XRI meets. So making this much clearer would make it much easier and more objective to apply such a test. Drummond noted that the latter document is almost two years old and much of what it says about XRI is outdated. # DRUMMOND to send note to Stuart about this. Jeff pointed out that XRI is both a new URI scheme and a new set of namespaces. All URI schemes establish a new URI space, but many reuse existing namespaces. One exception is the urn: scheme, because it explicitly creates new namespaces for persistent identification of resources. The URNsAndRegistries-50 document leaves it unclear whether the TAG feels that URNs should no longer be used, as its main focus is on whether new URI schemes or URN subspaces are needed. Marty explained that he sent a message last Friday to the TAG's public list in response to questions from Ray Denenberg of the Library of Congress, but no response has been posted by anyone. In his message he points out that the TAG's document on URI Schemes that posits that they are very expensive, but Marty's experience is that in specific cases, trying to solve the problem without creating a new URI scheme is even more expensive. Marty believes that is the case with XRI. # MARTY to start new threads on the TAG list for continued discussion. Others are encouraged to chime in as needed. Bill suggested that discussions with individual TAG members or small groups may be the most productive. Drummond noted that both Peter and Stuart Williams, TAG co-chair, have suggested the same thing, and that this will be pursued as quickly as possible -- the primary barrier at this point being summer schedules. # DRUMMOND AND PETER to follow up with Stuart on scheduling. 3) IPR CLARIFICATION This was scheduled as an agenda item because on last week's TAG telecon, the TAG said that IPR wasn't necessarily an issue for them, but was for "people on the net". Also, OASIS voters have suggested that we need to clarify XRI IPR and the relationship of the XRI TC and XRI registry services such as the issues raised on the Wikipedia Talk page on XRI. # PETER to schedule this first on the next agenda. 4) SUMMER CALL SCHEDULE Drummond explained that he needs to take a six week sabbatical for travel, summer vacation, and to handle a number of domestic chores. There was a consensus that we should take a hiatus from telecons at least through the end of the month. # PETER to determine when to restart telecons in August.
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